I allways thought this is an info forum. <br />We all say what we know, what we heard or what we think is going to happen. The rest is up to our opinion and interpretation, or just left to future developments. This was the first thing why I joined it. None of us...well not many of us work for the mobs fighting to get us ethnic customers, so why is the vicous war already full on before any of them really started to operate. I mostly just read, rareley post... <br />But for god's sake why are the primitive instincts taking over? Why is there any need to call each other names? Why can't some of us just state facts or even rumours without insulting the others, leave them to discussion or to be proven by real facts? I've cruised forums, chat rooms etc. and nowhere have I read so many insults so much stirring up the usually nice internet atmosphere as I have here. After all we are all ethnics, we all want our home lands' TV and there is nothing we can do to get it sooner, to get channels we really want and/or to get it all at a fair price. Any forums, all over internet present users' opinions and this is forums' definition - we can all speak up our minds and leave all to others' discretion, whether to agree or disagree. But not to insult someone just because they think differently... What is happening here also shows the primitive way some of the forum's members want to win us ethnics for companies they secretely represent. In all this mess I rather approve the way Phill was treating those who insisted on stating their views, who then called the 'infidels' idiots and then it was getting out of controll.. He just banned them from the forum. I acknowledged the fact he was more sympatetic with TARBS/UBI but I don't think he was promoting them out of all. Let's be together. All us ethnics on one side. God knows how I want polish channels and many of them here but it is not a reason to hate or to insult any of the forum members or to like/dislike/promote/discriminate any of the providers that don't even supply polish channels yet... So just to repeat the very popular here phrase " get a life...".

george get real!<br /><br />This, how you say "war", is for a BIG reason.<br />Go and check TVPINK or BKTV web site or check TVBN channel and see the message!<br /><br />UBI is selling us a smoke for a Balkan package, they lie and full balkan people in to a signing a contract for something they KNOW they do not have broadcast rights ....<br /><br />TV+ has never adwertised for example Arabic channels or any other channels for which they do not have broadcasting rights.<br /><br />I would call this two above a very good informations, what do you think?<br /><br />Is that so hard to see?<br /><br />Is it to hard to see that this "litlle pro ubi" how you called him, Debono, was posting the lies here with one goal, to full people into a signing a contract with UBI.<br />He is hiding now, but you know what?<br />Even if he delete his pro ubi posts and lies, i got screenshoots of them all.<br />NOBODY can hide from the truth!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 31. December 2004, 04:32 AM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

I not hiding ja I'm right here behind you, You think I'm 100% pro UBI I can see you NEVER have fully read all my post, Don't tell me you didn't read the post that many read where I was giving a warning to UBI about two Matters 1/ PAY COTTLE, 2/ HELP YOUR OLD TARBS CUSTOMERS THAT ARE OWED 9 MONTHS OF TARBS SUB. why don't you ask some members on this forum How I stuck my neck out to help them recover some viewing time for old TARBS customers that paid 12 months in advance and still were owed around 9 to 11 months. EMAIL "ZULU CHIEF" and ask him how I tried to help him and others like him to recover cost and you think I'm pro UBI, actually UBI were throwing daggers at me for doing this and this is the way I have been treated for helping the people that I don't even know.<br />Never Again I will help anyone, You wonder why the general pubic has become so arrogant.<br />Next time Zulu Chief is on and he is one of the 17 that I've helped I will ask him to tell you what effort I went to at MY EXPENCE $$$ For phone calls<br />Zulu Cjief and the others are 100% Strangers to me, any even to today most have not been reimbursed.<br />You and your screen shots.<br />NEVER AGAIN!!!! I will help anyone.<br />Phil

I not hiding ja I'm right here behind you, You think I'm 100% pro UBI I can see you NEVER have fully read all my post, Don't tell me you didn't read the post that many read where I was giving a warning to UBI about two Matters 1/ PAY COTTLE, 2/ HELP YOUR OLD TARBS CUSTOMERS THAT ARE OWED 9 MONTHS OF TARBS SUB. why don't you ask some members on this forum How I stuck my neck out to help them recover some viewing time for old TARBS customers that paid 12 months in advance and still were owed around 9 to 11 months. EMAIL "ZULU CHIEF" and ask him how I tried to help him and others like him to recover cost and you think I'm pro UBI, actually UBI were throwing daggers at me for doing this and this is the way I have been treated for helping the people that I don't even know.<br />Never Again I will help anyone, You wonder why the general pubic has become so arrogant.<br />Next time Zulu Chief is on and he is one of the 17 that I've helped I will ask him to tell you what effort I went to at MY EXPENCE $$$ For phone calls<br />Zulu Cjief and the others are 100% Strangers to me, any even to today most have not been reimbursed.<br />You and your screen shots.<br />NEVER AGAIN!!!! I will help anyone.<br />Phil

Yes put it in twice so you can read it again!!

aaapchihaaaaa, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/default/blush.gif" /> <br /><br />(as Will Smith says in "I Robot"), I'm alergic on bullshit and we got lot of that on this forum. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br /><br />Every day sounds more kinky..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br /><br />ahem.... some of members anyway.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

This Forum is fukin stupid now.<br /><br />GG D Cottle. Way to provide info for all us!!!<br />This forum use to be very helpful now its turned to insults and flames. <br /><br />I think Aus-city is the no.1 flame war site in Aus. WD!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Bedouin the opposition wants it this way, all against UBI.

Yes Phil...u r right!<br />Some of those members do not know how to communicate on the forum and keep creating more and more caos for themselves. I wonder what Ja will be doing with those famouse of his own screenshots. Pease, grow up ppl. We are all same wogs/ethnics and would like to be treated as normal but forgot to do the same to the others....<br /> <br /> <small>[ 04. January 2005, 09:28 AM: Message edited by: fsking ]</small>

Ja and Satfreak should be saying more positive things about TV+ instead of UBI negativity. Doesn't help promoting TV+.