This is the letter Tv+ sent yesterday to many former Serbian TARBS subscribers. <br />I've been contacted by few and they were surprised how Tv+ got their addresses (as well as all personal details)<br /><br />First read the letter and I'll add my comment later.<br />PAGE ONE: (Personal Details removed)<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/zapjevaj/TvPlusLetter00a.jpg" alt=" - " /> <br /><br />PAGE TWO:<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/zapjevaj/TvPlusLetter01a.jpg" alt=" - " /> <br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

will see what happens they are marketing this hard now as the next court case might see BN and BK back on UBI and then the ppl with tv plus will have to stay with TV PLUS i think tv plus will be doing a big marketing campain now til the next court case to grab as many new subscribers as they can as tv plus may lose bn and bk in the next court case i hope the outcome is good for all balkan subs <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />and i see there stil advertising city records as a channel wats up with that <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 02. April 2005, 11:09 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

and how do they think there going to have NTV Hayat?? when its exclusive to UBI/TARBS ??<br /><br />its even listed on the NTV Hayat site as UBI are the provider of this channel in Australia?

Exactly, Hayat is UBI's. 100%<br /><br />Tv+ has no rights to advertise it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />City Records is not a TV station! (as I said it before)<br /><br />I've noticed, they (Tv+) does not advertise RTS (PTC)- Serbian nor MKTV- Macedonian <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> as they use to do since they started their campaign.<br /><br />But, the biggest question is: HOW THE HELL THEY KNOW ALL THE DETAILS OF FORMER TARBS CUSTOMERS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br />UBI should take legal action against this ASAP (as well as advertising UBI's exclusive chanells like NTV Hayat)

yep have heard that MKTV is 100% UBI's also <br /><br />the question to how they got the TARBS customers details is easy Pricewaterhouse coopers might have sold the customer database to them as i remember when tv plus first started i got a phonecall from them and they were telling me there going to have this and that when there service starts thats what i think happened anyway <br /><br />and yes UBI should screw TV PLUS for advertising Hayat on there website and also telling ppl that there goin to have it also <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> ....<br />and yes UBI should screw TV PLUS for advertising Hayat on there website and also telling ppl that there goin to have it also <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't think that Tv+ has big money to buy Customers' database from Pricewaterscoopers... Or somebody "donate" it to screw UBI <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />Oh yes, and UBI should screw Tv+ as hard as possible <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

The min is a 3 months in Advance, they have to be joking.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> The min is a 3 months in Advance, they have to be joking. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And everyone received that letter on 01. April and "The Special Price Offer" ends on 31. March !!!<br /><br />BTW, I'm banned from Ja's forum coz I refused to lick Ja's ass (but I didn't miss the chance to kick it, HARD ! ) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Mick you need to use Steganos, Its mask or changes your ip's I use it so does my Alias to suck up to ja and his cronies.

Oh Mick,<br />I did get to see your posts on that "ja's" site and I replied.<br /><br />Sorry I forgot to answer you email. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" />

someone is using ur name on ja's forum Phil<br /><br />http://xsorbit27.com/users5/austral...3cdd1d2e9120e2215d&topic=133.new#new<br /><br />proberly the same guy as put the msg up here saying it was ur fault looks the same <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

what a lame forum! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

wat a dickhead using Phil's name he even went to the effort to register Phil's name on that forum i mean geezzzzz get a life man LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

Nothing but a fuckwit but Satfreak has just PM'd me saying he would like to get rid of ja's forum because it works against Tv plus, Maybe thats a good idea leave ja's forum its doing its job of fucking up Satfreak and TV plus.

i think if he puts a complaint into xsorbit for it to be shut down due to the circumstances i reckon it would be closed down??

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> Nothing but a fuckwit but Satfreak has just PM'd me saying he would like to get rid of ja's forum because it works against Tv plus, Maybe thats a good idea leave ja's forum its doing its job of fucking up Satfreak and TV plus. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hahaha...<br /><br />My shout if they do close it down! There is nothing I'd like more than to stick it up "ja"!<br /><br />Vlad...

how dumb is ja really now his asking for proof that it wasent Phil who posted on his forum with that msg <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />http://xsorbit27.com/users5/austral...f66dcaffb0bfcfc065&topic=133.new#new

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">webmaster<br />Administrator<br />Full Member<br /><br />Posts: 225<br /><br /><br /> Re: To Phil and every other visitor - few legal facts.<br />« Reply #1 on: Today at 03:34:24pm » <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />I had legal consultations over this matter and here are few facts:<br /><br />1. Nobody impersonated you here, just a user who registered nick "Phil Debono" as you did on your forum. This forum is not connected in any case with your forum and nicks are not common on both forums, they are not "global" in other words.<br /><br />2. There are many millions of other forums, many millions of same nicks on them, if you see on some other forum that someone is using "your nick", will you go and try to stop it? Or accuse webmaster of some wrongdoings?! Will you go over hundreds of other forums and do that? Offcourse not.<br /><br />3. If you want to stop people using your preferred nick here, please register it your self here, doing that your preferred nick will be protected from teft and reserved only for you. Same goes for everybody else.<br /><br />4. Than and only than (after you register it here) if someone tries to use your NICK (which is registered here) or something similar to your NICK, you can accuse that person of impersonating you.<br /><br />5. Only than will I act in your defence.<br /><br />6. From now on, whoever comes first and register nick "Phil Debono" here will be free to use it. Same goes for every other nick.<br /><br /><br />webmaster </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">he is trying to look like he has a clue of what his talking about but once again as always no clue at all <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> i think if he puts a complaint into xsorbit for it to be shut down due to the circumstances i reckon it would be closed down?? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's a good idea.<br />If all of us write a complain about Ja's Forum (separately)to "xsorbit" I'm sure it'll be closed down in no time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Agree?

http://xsorbit27.com/users5/australiasatelite/index.php?topic=135.0<br /><br /><br /> Author Topic: I am an idiot! (Read 1 times) <br />ja<br />Guest<br /><br /><br /> I am an idiot!<br />« on: Today at 05:09:56pm » <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />Just thought I'd tell everyone I'm an idiot!<br />...that's all <br /><br />ja,<br />The webmaster

hahaha well atleast he admits it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> ( yes i know its not really him )

hahahaha<br /><br />u are using steganos yeh??<br /><br /><br />Author Topic: yes I'm a real idiot! (Read 2 times) <br />ja<br />Guest<br /><br /><br /> yes I'm a real idiot!<br />« on: Today at 06:26:04pm » <br /><br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />I'm a looser, imbicile, low life, moron, cretin, faggot and so foth....<br /><br /><br />Bwahahahahaha

deleted already i just saw it when i hit refresh it was gonnnnnneeeeeeeeee

naaa I own many IP's <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Yes i still think ja is all behind this problem, he is a arse we need to find his real name, i will wait a few days and start posting on his forum using steganos, what a arse.

http://xsorbit27.com/users5/austral...a16b3ebdfa8cdd42a74167c6&topic=137.0 <br /><br />woooooooooohooooooooooo i got steganos working <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> i seem to have a toolbar in IE now didt have that before now everything seems to be working fine <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> .<br /> <br /> <small>[ 03. April 2005, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

I'll see what I can do about finding out his name <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

i remember his first name is dragane or sumthin cant remember his surname was sumthin hard to pronounce

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> http://xsorbit27.com/users5/austral...a16b3ebdfa8cdd42a74167c6&topic=137.0 <br /><br />woooooooooohooooooooooo i got steganos working <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> i seem to have a toolbar in IE now didt have that before now everything seems to be working fine <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> . </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't forget to update your 50 servers before you use it as some of the anon servers are dead and there is your problem, i always refreash the servers before using

Yes it works ok , read how it works,,, set all your settings, you will notice the Computer takes 15 seconds more to fire up and Shut down as it distroys all traces, heaps of setting read the read me its handy<br />Whenigo on Ja's site as Phil i use my normal ip but as a alias its steganos time,Heeeeeee

yep seems to be working ok now i do a server update everytime i turn it on now and all seems to work good now dnt know why it wasent working before <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> yep seems to be working ok now i do a server update everytime i turn it on now and all seems to work good now dnt know why it wasent working before <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I couldn't find Steganos for free... Or maybe i've done a wrong search?<br />Where did u get it from Lazer? Phil?

PM sent with details on how to get steganos YU4CFG <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

send one to me 2, Lazer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

ela reeeee<br /><br />u have mail <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

And just think it all came from me designed to piss off ja<br />Heeeeee let me know how you go with the key gen numbers to be added manually<br />Use this number if U need<br />068 054 066 083 131<br />i just generated it

yep Phil's the one that found this software and a very good program it is for what it does <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />also the site has alot of other goodies on it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

will have a sticky beak soon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />