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2012 has been designated (as foretold in the Mayan prophecies)the year of change and upheaval for the Earth.

Hopefully, most of us are aware of the 2012 scenario and what it may mean for humanity in general.( and I am not talking about the Olympic games!!)
There are supposedly major changes taking place right now in the Earth and within ourselves, which will determine our progress.
Here is a list of some possible changes that may take place.


* Migraine headaches, tiredness
* Electrical sensations in the limbs and spinal column
* Cramps in the muscular networks
* Flu like symptoms
* Intense dreams.
* The human body will become more sensitive as a result of the new vibrations.
* The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance) has been 7.8Hz for thousands of years. Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz.
This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day. Time is speeding up!
* The physical body has already begun to change. A new light body is being created.
* Our DNA is being re-programmed from the Universe (as predicted in the Mayan Prophecy).
We are going from 2 strand back to 12 strand DNA.
* Greater intuitive and healing abilities will emerge.
* Eyes will become cat like in order to adjust to the new atmosphere and light.
* All newly born children will probably be telepathic at birth.
* All plagues of the 90's, including AIDS will be gone.


What are your thoughts on the above, have you noticed any difference in yourself or others?

If you have any thoughts on 2012, do you want to share them?

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Gosh I love having you here to bring up such interesting topics. cheer

I have given some considerable thought to 2012, though I remain open to any possibilities of what it will bring. I do find the number 2012 popping up sometimes for me personally (one little synchronicity is that my son was born at 20:12).

I do think there is a significance for 2012 and that it will bring something, but I also notice that everytime we are expecting some huge occurrence (milenium bug rollfloor ), it doesn't happen.

I have definitely had the electric feeling in my limbs. I feel the vibration in my fingers and toes and along my spine. I thought it was a slow kundalini awakening, and maybe it is all tied together. This is coupled with lots of intermittent flu like symptoms. I always think I have a cold, but it doesn't develop.

There is no doubt my intuitive abilities are on the incline and my dreams have always been intense and continue to be. My son has always had a telepathic-like connection with me (that is a whole topic in itself). I also am noticing pronounced almond-shaped eyes in some children (hard to explain why I think this is connected, but if this resonates with anyone, let me know).

Thanks for the great discussions, Chris. coolpeace

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Should anyone be interested in reading further, or wanting to know a bit more about the 2012 scenario I suggest a book:
"Beyond 2012", by Geoff Stray.
Beyond 2012 is a comprehensive guide delving into the theories behind what many believe could be the most pivotal time in modern history.This investigation reveals that several civilisations across the world have calendars, myths, prophecies and visions connected with 2012. Will it bring global catastrophe or spiritual transformation?
Have a read and make up your own mind.

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Thanks, Chris. Sounds like a very intersting book. yeah I also like the idea of the Signposts book. yeah

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Ok i dont understand any of this.
Maybe because im young but is this really going to happen?

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I guess you will have to wait till 2012 to find out Briarne! But should you wish to understand more about this topic, you can find much information on the net about it. The book is helpful also!!

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Good to have you joining in, Bri!

Chris, is there one strong or prevalent supposed scenario for 2012 (I mean like an earth cleansing fire, or another biblical flood, etc.)?

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Speak english please?

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Just in case you missed my welcome... good to have you joining in on our discussions, Briarne!

I am just asking Chris, since she has read and studied a lot of supernatural phenomenon and subjects, to tell me what the main thought is amongst the authors or experts as to what might happen (if anything physical) in the year 2012, which is a date predicted by some ancient civilizations (such as the Mayans) as an "end date".

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Thanks for welcoming me.

Sorry theres alot of words i dont understand.

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Here is another piece of information regarding the 2012 scenario.

For all those people who have been experiencing the 11:11 for the past years and wondered why you just happen to look at the clock at that particular time, repeatedly. According to the US naval observatory, the 2012 winter solstice will occur at 11:11 universal time.

Very, very interesting I would say!!


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Isn't that curious?
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Wow, that really adds further dimension to my thoughts on 2012 (thanks). Frequently having my eyes "pulled" to the clock at 11:11 has been an on-going phenomenon for me for 15 years now.

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Everything comes together in the fullness of time Alisa. 11:11 has been ongoing for awhile now. If this is the real reason why we look at the clock at that time. I find it wonderful, even awe inspiring the way everything is synchronised. :tup:

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Here is a interesting site I found regarding a film made about the Mayan connection to the 2012 scenario. there is a trailer to watch also.
http://www.shiftingages.com/treatment.html

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Ok. I also found this site that has many mini videos regarding the 2012 scenario. should you wish to inform yourself a little bit more, try out this site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qt3ucq6V1E

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Great links, Chris! :tsup: I found the film website of The Shift of the Ages very interesting. I have not done much research on the Mayans, only learning about it in bits and pieces as it crops up in my personal spiritual quest, so this helped fill in a few gaps.

I was particularly struck by this phrase from the site:

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The Mayans state that this 4th period (our period) will die by fire and be reborn in a new, different, and more evolved form. This will be the beginning of the “Fifth Sun”.


Because of my various dreams I have had of a fire cleansing. The most recent being a dream within a dream on 02 October this year (from my journal):

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I dreamed that I dreamed that I was given a revelation. The revelation was along the lines of the “end of civilization” being a big fire. To accept the fire would be to move freely and instantly into spirit and well-being, to fight the fire (out of fear) would be to live on in struggle and pain.


Apocalyptic scenarios scare me, but I find it eases my mind that I believe we are eternal (our souls) and can never truly "die". And because I have firm belief in reincarnation, I am fine to come back to a better place in a better body if that is the "go".

P.S. I am experiencing synchronicity since 02 October is my son's birthday, and he was born at 20:12, AND because within the above dream I also dreamed I went to my uncle's house overseas, who sychronistically sent me a letter I just received that was dated 02 October (so I dreamed I visited him at the very time he was composing the letter to me given the time difference). ahha

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Glad you like the links Alisa.

I think the topic is too important to slip from a prominent position. So, I will keep adding bits and pieces to it as I find it.
Your dreams are always fascinating. yes

The Shift of the Ages has already begun

Ancient prophecies have predicted it.
Indigenous people and traditions honour it.

Changes within the Earth are affecting,sleep patterns, relationships, the ability to regulate your immune system and your perception of time. Practically, just about everything.

We mentioned a short time ago the feeling that time is speeding up, Maybe this bit of info may help:

The resonance of Earth (Schumann Resonance - That's the average "resonance" frequency of the Earth's magnetic field) which I liken to the heartbeat of the Earth, had been 7.8Hz for thousands of years.
Since 1980 it has risen to over 12Hz. This means that 16 hours now equate to a 24 hour day. Time is speeding up!
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Thanks for the constant stream of great information and I'll be looking forward to whatever else you choose to add to this thread! ahha

It is interesting about the quickening resonance of the earth! It certainly feels like time is speeding up. dizzy

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I have moved this item to this thread, because it has more to do with this theme:

Further investigation has led me to this:

If you multiply 1111 by 1111 you get 1234321, representing a pyramid, and number 11 is a sacred number of the pyramid with the proportions of the great pyramid being of the ratio 7:11. Eleven is also a number harmonious with Pi. Therefore, it seems that number eleven is of central importance in understanding the mathematical infrastructure of the universe. This appearance of an abundance of 11:11 sightings on clocks seems to be is about thinking out of your box and letting your mind stretch outside it's comfort zone.11:11 does not allow you to forget about the larger questions because it is always popping back into your reality, acting as catalyst to distract our consciousness away from the sublime and on to something far more challenging.

The Doorway the 11: 11

This can presently be perceived as a crack between two worlds.

It is like a bridge which has the inherent potential of linking together two very different spirals of energy.

As we unite together as One, bringing together our fragments of the key,
we not only create the key, but we make visible the Doorway.

Thus this bridge functions as an invisible door or a doorway into the Invisible realm.

The 11:11 is the bridge to an entirely different spiral of evolution.

The symbol of 11:11 was pre-encoded into our cellular memory banks long ago.

Returning our cycle of incarnations upon the Earth. The 11.11 has rested dormantly within us since that faraway position under time-release mechanization, combined with sealed orders which would only open when the 11.11 was fully activated. It has been gently sleeping, awaiting the moment of triggering. And now the 11:11 is finally activated...

11:11 is the pre-encoded trigger and the key to the mysteries of the universe and beyond.

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A poem I found on this topic:

Twenty twelve poem

Twenty twelve is within reach
I don’t wanna rave or manic street preach
But the new agers doom date is looming
And the Mayan end point is zooming.

Now they’re calling it Ascension
Breakthrough to the nth dimension
A mighty change – can you feel it?
If you gotta problem, just heal it.

Your body’s just a vehicle – not you!
Makes you think about what you do
Makes you wonder who you are
If your body’s just like a bike or a car.

If you read this stuff straight it stinks
If you’re stoned you’ll be making more links
If you’re totally outa your head
You won’t care if you’re alive or dead.

Can you hear the gurgling, feel the grime
2012 is getting closer, the plughole of time
There’s a pull, there’s a whirling confusion
A shattering of each long-held illusion.

The projection screen we call reality is tearing
It’s time to be earth-shattering, daring
Time to change, to risk, to let it all rip,
Give yourself what you want, that baby, that trip!

Get it while you can, my lovelies, you lot
They may all be right or even if not,
You’re going to die anyway, it’s all a game
Live out your dreams, that’s why you came. thinking

By Jan Maloney





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Wow, what a poem. cylon I must say I really like the last stanza, particularly "Live out your dreams that's why you came". cloud

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I wonder if most people know why they came :question:

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I suppose it's rather speculative. scratchchin And there are quite diverse belief systems amongst us all. flamewar

I for one rejected the religion I was brought up on (Mormonism), and in doing so, felt that meant there was no God or spirit world. Funny how it can seem so either/or until you learn to think differently.

Thankfully at some point it occurred to me that there could still be a spirit world without my having to fit it within the definition of any specific religion. idea Whew. tearsofjoy

Having found and interacted with spirits through photography and clairaudience, I have been able to see many of the links to various religions and belief systems. It seems to me that there is some truth in all beliefs. For me, instead of finding religion to validate spirituality, I have found spirituality to validate religion. infinity

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Well if anything is going to happen I would be putting my odds on the Earth getting hit by a large meteorite as far as any scientific 'odds' of what could cause such a catastrophy.

There has been a few near misses one a few years ago.

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I like your quote Alisa, thumbup
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instead of finding religion to validate spirituality, I have found spirituality to validate religion.


Diversity is the name of the game and so depending on your belief system, there will be many differing theories as to what will/ happen in 2012.

Nice to see a comment here from you Webmaster wave



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Thanks Chris. veryhappy

And as for Webmaster...he's getting behind in posts again I see. We might be graced by another visit. clap

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I always enjoy popping in, I just made a heap of news posts and updates, so I caught up and I think I just sneaked into the top spot again.


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flowerI said I would try to keep updating this topic.
I found this video by Gregg Braden,"The god code", which is very interesting and quite pertinent to this topic I would say.

Check this out:

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=895136556

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I recently watched a documentary on the History Channel called "Decoding The Past: Mayan Doomsday Prophecy".

The depiction of the Mayan calendar as a 3-piece clockwork was interesting and helped me understand it better. The interpretations of the hieroglyphics from the various interpreters was interesting, but very subjective.

The program indicated that according to the Dresden Codex (one of four surviving Mayan documents procured by a Dresden, Germany library) there is a panel that is interpreted to mean that the outcome of the end of this cosmic cycle (on 21 Dec 2012) will be a flood. The documentary presented a page from the Codex with figures representing a serpent with water coming from it's mouth and a Goddess pouring a bucket of water down upon the king of the underworld. Under the serpent's belly are symbols representing the moon and the sun with water coming from them as well. (This has something to do with an eclipse of the sun and moon preceding the flood).


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But I thought that the final event according to the Mayans was to be a fire. questionmark

This prompted me to search. I found an excellent paper called "The Maya Flood Myth and the Decapitation of the Cosmic Caiman" by Erik Velasquez Garcia. The paper gives several references of interpretations of flooding as fire:


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Among the Maya groups that left behind written testimonies during the Posclassic and Colonial periods, we find different accounts that revolve around the existence of a flood that wiped out the previous world and allowed for the creation of a new cosmological order. With the K’iche’, for instance, this flooding was produced by Uk’u’x Kaj (“Heart of the Sky”), or Juraqan, Mother and Father of the Gods, in order to annihilate the race of the men of wood (Recinos 1984:94-98; Christenson 2003:85-90). Bartolomé de las Casas (1967, II:507) also mentions that amongst the Q’eqchi’ people from Verapaz, “there was news about a flood and the end of the world, and they called it Butic, which means deluge of many waters and also judgment, and so they believe that another Butic is yet to come, which is another flood and judgment, not of water, but of fire, which they say has to be the end of the world, in which all creatures will fight each other..

A similar passage is contained in the Relación de la ciudad de Mérida (De la Garza 1983, I:72), which confirms the belief in successive floods of water and fire.


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Thanks for sharing that link, Chris. And though my post here is not about 2012, I find synchronicity with you once again, because I felt compelled to search out a song I needed to hear yesterday (a rare occurrence for me to need a song) and I found this one on YouTube, not realizing that along with awesome videos, a wealth of tunes are available here. [Linked Image]

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A very good choice there Alisa clink- Freddie certainly rocked! [Linked Image]
One of my favourite artists, who is missed and will not be forgotten by so many.

Maybe the lyrics of this song by Queen, should belong to this topic:

"It's a kind of Magic"

One dream, one soul, one prize,
One goal, one golden glance of what should be,
(It’s a kind of magic).
One shaft of light that shows the way
No mortal man can win this day,
(It’s a kind of magic).
The bell that rings inside your mind
It’s challenging the doors of time,
(It's a kind of magic).
The waiting seems eternity.
The day will dawn of sanity.
Is this a kind of magic?
(It's a kind of magic).
There can be only one
This reign that lasts a thousand years
Will soon be gone.
This flame that burns inside of me,
I’m hearing secret harmonies.
(It’s a kind of magic)
The bell that rings inside your mind,
It’s challenging the doors of time.
(It’s a kind of magic).

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Another good addition of lyrics highfive

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There are so many good lyrics that seem so apt for this topic...

It could turn into a musical tribute hysterical

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I read the first post, and found it interesting, though I found this one funny:

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* All newly born children will probably be telepathic at birth.


I think all humans and animals are telepathic, we just don't know how to manually use them. Many people, if left together for even a short period of time, will begin to syncronize. First its footsteps and such, but after a longer period, they can even start to think similarly. I think this is because a part of the brain deals in telepathic signals, in which we find extreamly dificult to manually use.

Just like wiggling our ears, the muscles are there. We just cant use them easily yet.

Though, the rest of the facts are very interesting, though, change is always happening. Climates are always fluctuating, evolution is always happening, no matter how long it takes.

Personally, I'm not suprised the human body is trying to change rappidly. For hundreds of years, we've stuffed it with steroids, drugs, alcahol, medicines, everything you could think of. This all would most probably have an effect on the body's chemical balance, and thus the genes ect. would try and adapt. Once they've managed, they'd be passed on, in which the sycle would happen again.

P.s. Sorry for the bad spelling. doh

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Whoa. I done some research on this 2012 stuff, and found some Awesome stuff. I shall share:

On July 31st, 2006, An amazing thing happened on the sun. A reverse polarity sun spot, which is indicative of the next solar max cycle, number twenty four. That cycle is where the sun goes into its maximum emissions activity. The peak of the increased suns activity will occur in 2012.

This also corresponds to the Maya 'end of the world' prophesy.

The Mayan calendar, or so I've heard, is three gears.
The hieroglyphs on the larger wheel mark the three hundred and sixty five days of the solar year. Those on the two smaller gears mark the two hundred and sixty two days of the priests sacred calendar. Using this calendar, Maya priests predicted the exact time and place of solar eclipses. The accuracy of Maya astronomy still astounds. The cycles of the moon, where mapped so precisely, that today, fifteen hundred years later, their calculations are off by only thirty-three seconds.

By the Maya calendar, the world will end on Sunday, December the 23rd, 2012.

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Wow, thanks for the great thoughts and additional information about the Mayan calendar. I'm glad you looked into it and shared!

I found much meaning in your post. I even found the calculation discrepancy of 33 seconds to be significant (33 has so many meanings numerologically).

I really loved this coolpeace :

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I think all humans and animals are telepathic, we just don't know how to manually use them. Many people, if left together for even a short period of time, will begin to syncronize. First its footsteps and such, but after a longer period, they can even start to think similarly. I think this is because a part of the brain deals in telepathic signals, in which we find extreamly dificult to manually use.

Just like wiggling our ears, the muscles are there. We just cant use them easily yet.


Excellent additions to this topic, OMJ! highfive

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And, Just to add (Mainly for Alisa's knowlage) that I came over the infomation in a video in youtube. I had no intention of finding it, but heard the lyrics of a song called 'signs' in my head. Not knowing/remembering who it was by, I simply put in 'signs' into youtube. And as I scrolled down, it came up with the video! Intregued, I clicked on it, and the rest stands before you in text and type.

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Thanks very much, OMJ! clap Seriously, this is just an amazing example of how I find out so much "stuff" myself. 99% of the time when I hear a song in my head it is a clue to something I need to find or look at, or answers to questions. It may sound strange to some, but it is one of my most valuable "finds" about my reality - that many of the answers trying to surface for me use song lyrics as a favourite route.

I theorized long ago that my eternal memory exists in my soul, which is largely outside of my body. The information I have gained to put in my memory from this life time has entered into and through my physical brain through one of my physical sensory organs (eyes, ears, touch, etc.). This creates a hard pathway as the information is deposited in my soul-memory. To remember things that have happened in this life time, I can physically trace the route(s) through my brain. This is what it feels like to "remember".

When information is retrieved about a past life, or about things that have happened to others (psychic/ESP), the information is in the soul memory, but has not before been run through the physical brain (neurons). No hard path. So when it is retrieved, it feels quite different to retrieving memory that has come in on a hard path. It feels similar to imagination, but it can flow into the brain from the soul without any "grasping". It just "downloads" and feels a bit, as I said, like imagining.

So I further theorize, that when my soul wants me to know something that has not yet passed through my brain and made a hard-path for retrieval, it has to use download. One of the best ways to get me to click "OK" in my brain to download, is to trigger me to understand I need the info by playing a song over and over. Usually I cotton on and realize, "Hey, that song has been playing in my mind all day, what is it I need to know". At that point I am pressing "OK" and looking for where the information is stored outside of my brain.

An example of this was when I heard the word "Chaldean". It was a word I had only heard once before in this lifetime, as the name of a movie character. But my soul wanted me to look into and learn about ancient Babylonia (which I also knew nothing about) and so it fed me this word over and over by playing it from the line in the movie. Tis a long story, but let me leave it at that for now (or read about it on my Babylonia page ).

But I will say, this has happened numerous times to me, where lines from movies (hard-path memory) will be played over and over to get my attention and give me a word I must research when there is no other way to get the word to me, since I've never heard of it before, such as Chaldean and other ancient or spiritual terms.



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