Very good point Hespera.
But unfortunately the Department does get it wrong and tries to remove your children and now possibly put them with foster carers because they can and personally I don't like this.
I will say this for the 100th time, what happens when the Department of Child Safety gets it wrong? What happens when a Social worker from the Department of Child Safety deliberately LIES!?!?! Or they might call it entrapment but in the eyes of the law its simple they LIED!!!!!!!!!!
This is my biggest gripe with them and this is the ONLY reason I'm here on this site because of FUCKING OUTRAGEOUS LIAR and we have the CONCRETE evidence recorded to prove it.
I hope your reading this MOLE your days will be coming soon via the Crimes and Misconduct Commission. These Social workers work in an area where the truth must be a must so why did they lie that day bitch? That started my problem with DOCS, You're not going to get away with it SLUT!!
Hespera,
I have always respected the Police. Even the Police (JAB cop) warned me about them saying we are only the Police and we see if the law is broken but please remember we do not have anything to do what DOCS does. Now this will ring in my head until I die, Even her superior gave me a hint about DOCS but because this was day 2 of my headache I made nothing of it because at that time DOCS ment nothing to me but now they do.
The internet today is full of stories against DOCS and the common denominator is Lies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I still can't believe it, the Cops warned me about them and now I know why. I will say it again, the police try to warn me that whatever DOCS does we dont have anything to do with them and I thank them for that. Its a pity that I didnt listen to them in the early days but now I have realized what they're like.

Hi Another long time reader first time poster

I have never had personal contact with dchs but i have seen the damage this dept. has done. I've seen the laywers shaking their heads i've seen the families torn apart (including foster carers) It's like they want to notch a skull in there belt. And yes julie the lies OMG the lies if thats what you aspire to be ask yourself this, why do you want to do so much damage when alot of notifications are faults, who do you hate more happy families or men because it very apparent in your post thats it's 1 or both

And the trouble is the Department if full of types like her.
Do you know any Lawyers? Don't listen to me ring them up and ask them what I have been complaining about. Also Julie tells us she would like to join DOCS, who said she will get a position their.
She could be a shit shoveler stirring the DOCS pot.

You're right I Hate Gov, the Department does get it wrong. It would be naive of people to think that this Government run Department, or any Government or Community Organisation get it right 100% of the time. My heart goes out to families that have had their lives torn apart by the Department over false allegations and lies. I couldn't imagine how it would feel to have lies made up about me and my children taken away from me. My heart also goes out to families that have had other government and community organisations get it wrong and have the same effect. I'm not sure what it is, maybe it's human nature, but when there's people involved there's mistakes made, human error and out right injustices that occur. I don't think that there is anyway around it, unless we can make every human being perfect.

I think that people working in the Department who are intent on making up lies about families should be punished, there's just no excuse for it. There is a lot of power and responsibility given to these people and care and time should be taken to get the facts. I won't deny that there are people in the Department that shouldn't be working there. But just as with any other place, there are good people who are trying to help families and make a difference.

I know for a fact that Julie would not get a job in the Department. Her views on what the Department stand for are so far fetched and unrealistic and she obvsiously has a vandetta against someone that is very unhealthy. I also know for a fact that the Department would not implement such a callous and horrible standard for investigating notifications. They're in enough hot water with the community as it is. Why do something so uncalled for just to add fuel to the fire. Whoever Julie is getting her information from has it completely wrong.

It's not just men who abuse children. Women abuse children just as much. And children abuse other children. Julie obviously has some issues from her marriage that she needs to sort out. How would removing "all suspected child abusing men" fix anything? What about the women who are abusing the children? What about the siblings that are abusing each other? What about the neighbours and grandparents that are doing the same? Not only that, but just because someone says that it's happening, doesn't mean that it is. You need evidence to remove anyone from a situation like that.

I think that educating the public is a great idea. Everyone should know what their rights are when it comes to dealing with the Department and any other government run organisation.

As for departmental officers that do the wrong thing...It upsets me, it makes me sick to my stomach. To think that these people have the power to help people and change lives and KEEP families together, and yet they do the complete opposite.

You can see what has irritated I hate Gov Dept from day one in his first post. Its not the honest mistake that Child Safety has done, its the deliberate action of a Child Safety worker that has gone out of her way to lie and when situations like that happen unfortunately it can open a can of worms.

As I hate Gov Dept has explained many times the Department is full of Zealots and when you rub them up the wrong way which you as a parent are entitled to to protect your children some of the case workers will go to any length to seek their revenge.

yes I can vouch for that as will my kids in the media one day! I will inform the public as I'm just an average woman that got inolved with DcHs b/c of a wrong choice in partner ONCE and tragic circumstances after that kept them around but even though they knew, do you think they supported when asked for help? No No No.

They planned, schemed and destroyed for the next couple of years and this all started from a simple wrong choice! Unbelievable...I've had to have self-esteem counseling not b/c of previous domestic violence but b/c of the intimidation and lies by this dept. There should be orders out for them like Domestic Violence orders b/c they do just as much damage and there's kids involved and torn apart from the dept's actions!!!

Hi am another that has been reading this forum for months and have finally got the guts to join.

After having read the comments on this site, I can vouch that 98% of the comments are so true. When we had a notification put in against us, there was no evidence of any abuse whatsoever, I was treated like dirt, my husband was treated like dirt and I could not believe the way they conducted themselves, by pushing me to get rid of my husband. We were both shocked at the way they behaved, she continually pushed me, rang me at least 6 times, knocked on the door at least 5 times over a month period, telling me "haven't you got rid of your husband yet?". Then the intimidation started where they removed out children out of school and interrogated them. Mind you, my son was only 6 years old and they were asking "Is daddy here or is daddy there?". They even lowered themselves by going to some of our friends, telling what happened, deliberately trying to cause problems between friends. They repeatedly came back again, trying to intimidate me to get rid of my husband or you will lose your children. Why should I get rid of my husband, he hasn't done anything wrong? 12 months later we find out in court that it was a false allegation put in by a child and the department of child safety lied! You can imagine how disgusted and degraded we felt being treated like we were the worst people in the world when all we are doing is caring for and loving our children.

Its nice to finally be able to get some others to listen to what is really going on with this department. May I also tell you that we were intimidated to not talk to anyone or the media or put anything on the internet as the case worker said they would remove our children. Its been over 3 years now, 3 years of hell of looking over our shoulders, 3 years of sending our children to school and wondering if they were going to come back home, 3 years that the children went to school worrying that they might be taken out that day, now you tell me if this is fair? I will never never never forgive them and I hope one day a smart lawyer finds a loophole and starts a massive class action against the government for letting this department of child safety get out of control.

Another person, another story but have you noticed that magic word always seems to pop up from person to person? INTIMIDATION, INTIMIDATED. I would like 100 or so more to join this forum and post on this thread of the most HATED GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT and maybe after that one day someone in the Government might do something about this Department.

Over 17,00 views and still climbing. 60% are DoChs staff with nothing better to do.

Reading the altnews site and it seems everyone thinks that DOCS are Nazi's.
My opinion is that they act like it.
http://forums.altnews.com.au/node/69#comment-614

Nazi! NO GESTARPO their worst

What you went through is nothing unusual according to my Brother. They always try to intimidate, put you under extreme pressure and use your kids as a weapon of blackmail against your old man.
Get them in court and watch them change their tune because this is the way they operate and if an accusation has been made against your man they will use whatever trick they can use to remove him out of the house.
Remember as I HATE GOV said that a lot of them are men haters. Well I have one better, most of them are lesbians.

Its not dykes on bikes its dykes at DoCHs.

Cathy I don't know what we are going to do with you. But you might have a point.

Well there's definitely no justice in this state. Our hearing went for an hour with the judge not wishing to give the department any custody arrangements but ordered to reunify.

So they are reunifying with my ex which is good, I have no worries with that, we get on but and here's the but I have been denied contact now, can't complain to the local office, or the complaints unit let alone the Minister with anything being directed to the client relations officer at the zone office for our area.

I tried to work it out through her with her denying this and too bad too sad type comment thrown in of no review mechanism's available to me.

I have tried to enlist the matter back into court due to this contact issue and another matter but have been told the judge won't hear it until it is next heard, Dec 2008. so I'm stuck with now NO contact at all, no review/appeal or complaint processes for me or the kids and if ex-hubby thinks about supporting me on this, reunification will be stopped with him also!

All because their evidence was found to be false, and the judge didn't want to pull them up on it, he now won't hear anything and won't come December. By then the mountain of non-abidance, threats, intimidation and illegal issues coming forth from this is unbelievable! The are not transparent or accountable even with the court system!

Bloody sickening.

I was told that most of these types of court cases the Judge is asleep on the Job. As for DoCHS more I read about them, the more I feel they're a law of their own and you wonder today doesn't anybody care.

I gather LovingMyKids that the reunification was not with the person that the department have the trouble with as you said in your earlier post (about a bad choice of partners). If this person has nothing to do with you or your children anymore I can't see how the department can justify that you are not allowed to have any contact with your children. This is doing irreparable damage to the whole family. This department needs some big shake up to wake up to themselves. False allegations are such a cruel thing to have happen to anyone.

How can it be that the department can overrule the judges decision? I thought the justice system had more authority than the department, or am I really blinkered?

Keep your chin up and let us know how you go.

Mumkids,

In plain English its called VENDETTA. I will say it again for all to read that once you lock horns against DOCS they will go out of their way to fuck you up and they don't give a rats arse what the court says as they come up with some mumbo jumbo saying they're understaffed and there is nothing we can do about your case for the moment. YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR YOUR TURN!!!
This is done deliberately as I have spoken to at least 3 families in QLD that won their case but took years to get their kids back.
By the way the case I was talking about the children were 15 (boy) and 17 (girl) that got sick of Fuck up foster carers and continually ran away back to their mother and Fathers house.

I was told this by the father of those two Children that DOCS can do fuck all if kids of that age run away. What are they going to do? Stick them in Jail!?!? Again DOCS are fucked!! The kids run away, they turn up at the parents place, JAB GOONS!! They turn up with DOCS Lesbo's to steal them back to other Foster carers, this time PUS face DOCS Liars sent them away to other Foster carers a long away from the parents home only for the kids to do the same again.
I will say it again if there is concrete evidence of abuse well DOCS deserves to remove the kids but to remove the kids because of a vendetta by an individual because of a false allegation, plus the case is blown out of proportion because of a dirty fucking lying smelly fat gross pig of a DOCS officer well what can I say DOCS are treading on a very fine line.

Lets face it how many families today have $20,000 to $40,000 to throw around and donate this to Lawyers? NOT MANY and this is how they stump you as I can tell you if you say turn up in court with a high profile Lawyer you will possibly be treated differently.

I just noticed the VIEWS going through the roof!
Its just over 19,000 at the moment. Mind you this outstrips the entire aus-city site for any thread whatsoever.

I cannot understand how there hasn't been another royal commission into this department. We definitely need one.

Yes mumkids, definitely is needed. Any advice I can give any parent who hasn't got any money to fight legally like I didn't, and ex had legal aid as did other idiot ex all the way through.

I wrote letters, read the Child safety Practice manual inside and out and the CPA99, complained via letter when this wasn't abided by to the minister, Manager of cssc, opposition minister, children's commission, CMC, and then the complaints unit. I haven't stopped for a year in this.

I responded immediately to the dept's affidavit once received filing this into court sticking the truth to them. If they were going to try and have my kids for 2 years, it won't be for the garbage the dept were trying to claim...

I have just been informed that my local office has has a major shake up and employs have gone, managers and CSO's, with an office looking like it's shutting down...so we'll see. Patience patience! If it is true, I HATE GOV DEPT. . .Vendetta is the word for it in my case! I'm only a single parent fighting with the love of my kids, that's all the power I need plus the guy up above. I'll fight to the end with the truth...they obviously have something to hide if they are going to treat me like this!

What they do is recycle the trollops to another office. See in Brisbane DOCS management is always doing this on a yearly basis and one of the reason for this is some of the DOCS Zealots start growing a heart and the job gets to them because they see the damage they and others have done and this starts in fighting with the NAZI Gestapo hardliners so they move them around to stop this.
Also another reason they move them around is mainly for the abuse problem they're having so in simple terms if a DOCS CSO lives in the Southern suburbs she or the few he's work in the Northern Suburbs and if a CSO lives in the Northern suburbs she or a few he's work in the southerns offices (This is done to stop the after Hours problems)and they migrate them between offices of that north south area on a regular basis.
I said this before could you imagine going shopping and you see one of the DOCS DOGS that works in your area shopping at the shopping centre where you shop at? you will feel like going over to her or the rare him and having a very nice chat to the person.

Now how do I know the above well its simple I met a disgruntled unemployed sacked DOCs worker two years ago in a chat room and she told me she could not take the pressure anymore but the main reason she left but they sacked her anyway was conflicts with the management on the handling of cases. Now what she meant by the "CONFLICT WITH THE MANAGEMENT I WILL NEVER KNOW" but she said to me in GODS word that her conscience allows her to sleep at night.
So by saying this WHAT IN THE FUCK ARE THEY DOCS UP TO that would make a person want resign but they sack her first.

Wherever you look you will find DOCS and people against them.
http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080912015735AA4Nzxf

And another fuckup from DOCS.
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2005/s1436231.htm

Read the bit about the USELESS LEGAL AID!

This still has to be one of my favorites.
http://altnews.com.au/drop/node/7592

For all to know I am trying to get a "EX" employee of the Department Of Child Safety to Join this forum but I have told her that she must use her real name, She has nothing to hide, she did nothing wrong? but I want her to use her real name so she can be identified by the DOCS office that she worked in so she can tell of the disasters that she has experienced as a case worker.
Well they treated her like shit after she stood up for a family that DOCS was trying to remove the Children. She was smart enough to smell that something was wrong but OOOOOOhhhh No not the other arrogant bitches that dug their heals in.

(PS Do you know every DOCS office has plenty of paper shredders, and they like to use them when needed)

Also
Stuff it, I lost it!!! I trying to find the Link of the Lawyer that was accused of child abuse, He lost everything including his house, car, business, but was proven in court that DOCS got it wrong.
He might have to wait 20 years (DOCS and Government stalling tactics)to sue the Government but is doing it!!!! Good on you mate! I wouldn't settle for anything under 10 million dollars as this is the only way the Government will listen.
If anyone has time do a GOOGLE and find this lawyer that is going to grind the Government for the crimes that its uncontrollable Government Department has done.

As found on the ABC web site.

YOU TELL ME ALL THAT ARE READING THIS, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN TO YOUR FAMILY!!

Do you notice all the things I have been complaining about are in this article.


ELEANOR HALL: Now to Queensland and the damaging bungle by the State's Child Safety Department, which wrongly separated a mother from her children for more than a year.

The Brisbane mother lost custody of her two boys because her case file was mixed up with a drug-abusing, mentally ill woman.

The Minister for Child Safety has apologised for the mistake, but as Dea Clark reports, child advocates say it's evidence there are major problems with child protection in Queensland.

DEA CLARK: In May last year, Federal Police removed the children from their classroom and took them to a police station where they were handed over to the woman's former partner.

According to a report in The Australian newspaper, the police were acting on information supplied to them by Queensland's Child Safety Department.

Legal Aid officers refused to grant the mother assistance to fight her case in the Federal Court because they said it was unwinnable after viewing her Department file.

But the Minister for Child Safety, Mike Reynolds, says the removal of the children had nothing to do with his Department.

MIKE REYNOLDS: It is therefore wrong to link the filing error with the custody decision and subsequent actions taken by the Family Court.

Neither the original Family Court decision, I'll say that again, neither the original Family Court decision, nor the police execution of the recovery order was based on any information from the Department of Child Safety.

DEA CLARK: What's not disputed is that information contained in the woman's case file related to another Brisbane mother with a different name.

The distraught 35-year-old, who can't be named for legal reasons, only discovered the error after filing a freedom of information application.

The Child Safety Department's Minister, Mike Reynolds, concedes it was a terrible mistake.

MIKE REYNOLDS: This family, can I say first of all, has been subjected to unnecessary distress, and these circumstances are totally unacceptable. As Minister for Child Safety I apologise to those who have been affected and for any anguish this may have caused.

DEA CLARK: The woman's file contained information identifying her as having a psychiatric illness and a history of drug and alcohol abuse.

The error was discovered two weeks ago when the woman read her file, just three weeks before her custody case was to go to court.

MIKE REYNOLDS: Given the pending Family Court trial date, it was decided that immediate action was required to inform all relevant parties of the error pertaining to the linked file. Letters were prepared post haste and sent to the relevant parties, including the client's solicitor and the registrar of the family court. The record was set straight as quickly as possible to ensure that the court was dealing with the absolute facts of the matter.

DEA CLARK: But according to child advocate, Hetty Johnson, the damage has already been done.

HETTY JOHSON: They were dragged out of school apparently, I mean that's just embarrassing, it's humiliating.

DEA CLARK: The Department says the mistake was human error and occurred because the women have similar surnames and birth dates.

Hetty Johnson says despite a damning Crime and Misconduct Commission report into child protection and an overhaul of the Department overseeing child safety, there are still major problems.

HETTY JOHSON: I don't think the Government's woes with the Department of Child Safety are over, despite all the rhetoric. I think we're going to have a few more problems poke their head up in the not-too-distant future unless this Government puts the focus just as equally back to child protection, and as it is on health, and let's get this right.

DEA CLARK: Mike Reynolds says the information was incorrectly put into the file fours years ago, well before the Department's overhaul, but even so he's ordered an urgent investigation.

ELEANOR HALL: Dea Clark reporting from Brisbane.

Thanks to whoever sent me this ABC Story.

The other forums are dead so i will post something in this one.
I see that Queensland has a Child abduction alert system where if a child is abducted the Authorities can broadcast it over the airways.
I find this a very good idea as you never know what could happen to our kids today and a simple call could save them and send the perpetrator to justice.

The only thing I agree the Government doing that's right, thoughful and considerate for children for a change - but that's it! I wonder if parents can use it when Dchs take our children, they're being abducted!?

Sorry to say this but our children are being abducted from our schools every day by child safety and they get away with it, and as for the bit about justice what justice they break the same laws that others would be charged with.

I would take a bet that child safety are exempt from this as it seems they do steal a lot of kids from school and the parents don't even know about it and some never get to see them again.


For years I fought the CSA (Child Support Agency) about paying child maintenance for a child that wasn't even mine but I suspected that they were going to be the most hated department but by reading whats been going on with this child safety on this site plus others they defiantly now win the prize.
I hate gov please start your poll on who is the worst office in QLD, I'm a local up North Brisbane I'll just vote for the closest office.

Get this for a classic from Child Support, estranged hubby pays maintenance for a child to a previous relationship but noticed that the year of birth for this child was stated wrong...it was a year after the child was born '92' but he'd been paying since the year the child was born '91' and therefore made a complaint. He gets a call today saying he has to proove the child was born in 1991 not 92 with a birth certificate which he can't retrieve due to not being on the birth certificate but still has to pay maintenance and now for another extra year b/c this sheila is lying and getting away with it. He wasn't even with her in 91 to have a child with her in 92 since the child was born in Jan 91.

Now doesn't that take the cake!

What a great mob we have here in QLD. We have JAB (Juvenile Aid Bureau), THE DOCS POLICE that are scared shitless of the Department of Child Safety and their bullies and it is well known that DOCS put pressure on JAB to unnecessary charge a person only because DOCS said so, and we have another mob of gangsters called CSA the Child Support Agency and these three Departments kiss each others arses when in need to bring the downfall of anyone that has the misfortune in dealing with them.

JUST A REMINDER
AGAIN ALL!!!!! YOU MUST KNOW YOUR LEGAL RIGHTS IF THESE GOONS EVER KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR.
Please get a current LAW book as you never now you might need it as it could be the best investment you ever make.
And Please don't tell me this will not happen to you because I am talking through experience. I was baffled with POLICE bullshit and was conned because I did not know my rights!!

You hit the nail on the head.
DOCS are the biggest Child stealer in QLD, and they are exempt from the Criminal code "363 (Child–stealing), 363A (Abduction of child under 16), 364 (Cruelty to children under 16), They have a 007 Licence to do what they fucking want.

We'll see about that, now where were those sections from? What act?

PM sent!

I can see what will happen one day, DOCS will stuff up big time and like usual the DOCS shredders will be working overtime getting rid of the evidence but this time the stench will be severe as the media will catch onto it and like usual DOCS will say there are very few complaints against DOCS. Yes we make the odd mistake here and there but guess what DOCS I'M HERE and so are others and this is just one of the sites related to abused people from the liars from DOCS.

Time for Home and Away on Channel 7 and what do you see on it, DOCS and fucking Currupt cops!! You cant even watch TV without stinking DOCS and Police Corruption spoiling your evening viewing.

The Department does do mistakes. Look at the case last week where a young child was sent to his father in W.A. where the father was nothing but a loser and a convicted armed robber who had served time.

If I was a supervisor of that office, I would have never allowed that innocent child to be sent back to a thug like that.