Yes Julie the Department of Child Safety like others does make genuine mistakes but I am not concerned about the genuine mistakes. I am concerned about the way they go out of there way in LYING only to inflame a situating further than what it is.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME, THEY FUCKING LIE!.
That guy you are talking about might be a convicted armed robber but at the same time he still could be a good Father.
Just look at our great NRL players always on the front page of the papers for the wrong reasons. Now tell me does that make them poor Fathers.

R U still trawling the net? You as a supervisor? you have to be joking as all men would be guilty even before a notification goes in. I'm starting to think you worked for the CSA because you certainly sound like it.
If you miss out at DoCHS why don't you try to become a screw.

You need to be found out who you're and action taken to make sure that types like you never work in a position like Child Safety.

Crow
This is the reason why types like her should never be employed in these positions.
But unfortunately these type of people like her are attracted to positions of power like what can be found in Child Safety.

The trollop is using a proxy server

What's a proxy server? Can't be traced? See covering up already...she got being a CSO down pat already and she hasn't even started!

Forget want to be Julie the future DOCS worker its the ones already there that are the worry.
WHY IN THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I'M HERE AND TRYING TO SPREAD THE WORD! I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN SIT IN FRONT OF A KEYBOARD trying to wake up the sleeping blind naive public that have not got a clue how dirty and vicious this Department of Child Safety LIARS are.
I will say it again and again, One day DOCS will stuff up big time but like they always do they cover their tracks very quickly and like the XFILES they deny everything, they say we never knew that has happened before, Sorry (I will remove the word Sorry as they never say sorry) Its the first time we have heard of this before but the next time you will not get away with it DOCS you and your fucking lies.

Yes a good trick bouncing off over 250 server all over the world.
try getting a court order for the 250, you have a better chance of flying to Mars but this is normal for trouble makers these days using proxy servers.
Who knows Julie might even be a cop parked at Robina.

LovingMyKids
I don't care about Julie, you and I know that The Department of Child Safety is full of Julie's

I agree but as I hate Gov said that DoCHS is full of them and one more will not make a difference.

Crow
I am patient, I am waiting for the right moment to pounce, I will get my legal revenge one day don't worry, its only a matter of time and the domino effect will happen.

Hello to my allies,

This is the first time I have posted something here. I too have horror stories about this Department.
Let's bring on the justice. At present this department are running rampant. Something is quite toxic and wrong in our society today if this can continue to operate in this manner.
And re: Julie - I think it was just someone taking the piss. No person could seriously believe what she said. I sit opposite and ex CSO who left due to the unethical practices.
Any self respecting person would be ashamed to have 'CSO Department of Child Safety' on their C.V.
Will talk to you all some more - in fact I can't shut up about this department. I am not scared of them.
I want to shout it from the roof tops about how wrong wrong wrong they are.
Lie, corruption, deceit, mistruths -
There is nothing safe about the Department of Child Safety.
No child is safe from the Department of Child Safety.
DOCS = Danger.

Bye for now but not forever!

PLEASE COME BACK AND BRING YOUR BUDDIES WITH YOU. THE MORE THE BETTER!

You are right about Julie, I treat her like a fart in a jar. Till today we have had over a hundred people join this forum where I suspect they are DOCS related. The reason why I know this is most that have joined use any typical display name but after they have joined say weeks or months later, change their display name which has to be approved by the administration and I have a giggle when they have to be approved because they definitely smell DOCS related. As you know anyone that ever has anything to do with DOCS has been intimidated by them, they threaten you that if you cause trouble we will take your children off you, as was the case with us. Most are scared to even say boo against the department, again retaliations by the department if you do, but I am not one of them. They started it and I am going to fucking finish it and I want other people that have been abused by this destructive government department to join me here, to join others on other forums or internet sites that have the guts to stand up to them. I wrote a story about corrupt police officers speeding past a speed cameras after I spotted a story on Channel Nine news and the dirty tactics they use to get out of being booked, I will find the link and I will post it down the bottom for all to read. Now, this attracted channel nines attention, channel nine sent me an email, I spoke to channel nine as they rang me and we had a good conversation over the phone, but at the same time, the attention was "What is this most hated government department". The media are looking, the media always look for stories and I want to see the Department of Child Safety, this time wiggle their way out of a situation saying we knew nothing about our problems, nobody told us that our CSO's lie. How are they going to deny this, when the shit hits the fan again one day, the media will be coming to this site and others and ask the department, well its been going on for years, your unethical methods and lies.

When DOCS tried to intimidate my wife that was the end for me. These bunch of gangsters are never going to get away with this, I will be here till the day I die and my children are starting to get older and are allowed to use the internet and they will also have their say to what the Department of Child Safety did to them. I encourage all that have joined but have not posted and maybe are scared to post at least poll when I start my poll. I will make up a beautiful poll on this site, I will possibly pick up to 24 offices in Queensland and all you will have to do is put a dot in the box of the most hated government department office in Queensland. It would be good to see who gets the number one rating. I will only be allowing members unfortunately to poll. Unfortunately if you allow non members to poll you are going to get the idiot factor. So thisisgood, go get your buddies and come back.

Typical Police Corruption, Read link below.
http://www.aus-city.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=35837#Post35837

I would get on my hands and knees on glass to get her to join and tell us and the public some of these stories.
The Public need to know, The Media need to read.

I actually drove pass our local DOCS office the other day and spotted a queue of people waiting outside, Now this is not the first time I have spotted this and I just wonder if those people know they're entering the TEMPLE OF DOOM where some CSO'S are WHORES FROM HELL.
What we need to do is stand outside the Temple Of Doom handing out fliers with links to this site and another warning them what will happen if you enter this snake pit.

Hello my Allies,


Give me about a week as I am on holidays and will have to do this when I get back to work.
Cheers,

Its good to see more and more joining the forum everyday to expose what has been happening here in Qld.
I hate gov department, my bro has passed this link to other lawyers that he knows. He said to tell your mate you have balls and one day he hopes you will get your vengeance but please don't make DoCHS too honest as most Lawyers will start hurting in their pockets through lack of business.

You defiantly have a way with words.
Please start the poll, please start the poll, please start the poll.I can't wait!.

I have been doing some reading on this thread for a long time as some of the other forums on this site are just about dead and what I read here does raise some concern.
Last week I noticed police cars across the road I had one look and didn't bother to look again but this morning the wife spoke to the lady that belong to that house and she told me that Child Safety and the Police not in uniform knocked on the door and minutes latter the fly screen door was kicked in and the lot charged into a house to arrest a 19 year old man that lives there suspected of Child abuse.
The only problem is there is no 19 year old man that lives in that house as they only have two daughters.
All I know for the moment is that the police went along their business like if something happened but at the end of the day it was a false report that bought the Police to the door.

Typical!
I bet they never apologize, I bet whilst there they will try to find anything that they can to justify the unwanted raid.
Did the forcefully open the door? How old were the Children?
Please give me more info if possible.

Good to see you back and I hope to hear from you soon.

Good to see AltNews up and running with a new look
and its more friendlier to use. One day I would like to shake his hand as his site gave me the inspiration to start this on aus-city.
http://forums.altnews.com.au/

Hello,

Like "I hate gov dept" I too have been waiting for my right moment.
Currently am gathering information, obtaining FOI files, and awaiting outcome of independent investigation into my case that seems to have taken most of this year! I just rang before and apparently the outcome of the independent review is now sitting on the zonal director's desk. A response from all this is coming.
At this point in time of my life I am on a mission to get all my facts correct and then sceam it out from the roof tops about our experience with this department.I have a plan. I am serious.
I am concerned thought that other people disgruntled by the department are not proceding through the correct complaints channels. Don't just whinge - do something and get proactive for God's sake!!
Especially once the bullshit ordeal is over (when the court cases are over and DOCs drop you and your family like a hot cake!).
Don't be scared, get up and start your fight, find your allies, find your voice and make a plan of action.
You who have been wronged by this department now OWE yourself, OWE your family and OWE the people of Queensland to learn the truth. You can make a change - this happened to you for a reason and it is now your responsibility to act on what you know. Don't lie down and die get up and fight!
If you don't know what to do next write back here and ask who to send what to!

You sound exactly like me because I done exactly what you have done.
We have not smelt DOCS for over 3 years and all I'm waiting for is my day in court and if everything goes well the first thing I will be doing the next morning is contact the CMC.
I have all my facts CORRECTLY in order, I have all my evidence in order I have two independent professional also helping me (not Lawyer) Plus I do have my Solicitor + Barrister which have a job to do then its WAR!!!!

I would like to say more but I will refrain myself but trust me I have possibly spent over 2000hrs in the last 3 years doing my homework and i'm still doing it today and will be doing more in the next few weeks with others to prove to them what DOCS did.
They are never going to get away with this. One thing at a time, I'm patient you know. I'm counting the days one by one.

Go to AltNews and use the SEARCH function on AltNews and type in DOCS and be prepared to read for the next week or so.
Haaaa I love it, all we need now is other sites to POP up and it will be interesting.

THE ABOVE IS A MUST

Hello I hate gov dept,

This has to be getting exciting! I am so excited for you. Are you paving the way out there for all to follow? It has to be for the children taken for being deemed at risk, yet no actual abuse occurs?! Yeah?!

But the whole system needs an overhaul. They should be doing preventative measures first, not this snatch and grab thing and Then let's take you to hell and back through court cases and make you out to be the most evil parent ever. Let's see you suffer afterwards and hey fuck those snotty nosed brats of yours, we don't give a shit about the kids really, we just pretend we do.
Gosh, most parents are feeling guilty anyway for one thing or another. MOTHERGUILT - there are even books written on this subject.

I have just jammed out another letter. Do you have an email address? I would like to send you a copy direct.
Now I need to send it off to all the other channels but gee who should i send it off to again -

zonal office
central complaints office
branch manager
the Minister for Child safety
Premier
Opposition - Jan Stucky
CMC
ombudsman
Children's commission


and who else??? do you recommend??

Yep, I've got nothing to hide and I intend to scream it out.

I believe you can't understand much from these FOI files as the photocopying is pretty unclear - what has been your experience?

I need to be careful that I don't spill my guts (so to speak) with what I write here.
One of my colleagues have wondered if DOCS could fudge up their reports/ files. She is a professional and nothing like having some healthy paranoia, is there ?!!

So do you have a court case booked for this event? Is it a criminal matter? It wouldn't be a closed court would it then? Are you inviting media?
I have looked into ways I can take DOCS to court.
Terry O'Gorman said to think long and hard about taking a government body to court. My friend was a whistle blower on Q'ld health and came off badly even though they were in the right.
So you obviously can't be taking the government to court so you must be taking actual CSO or team leaders to court for misconduct??
Come on - give me a hint.
I have documented meticulously throughout the whole thing.
At this point in time I am willing to spend the rest of my spare time for the remainder of my life exposing DOCS and this corruption.
The next state election is a really good time to strike.
I used to be politically active once in another area of interest, but lobbying government is way different to fighting them about injustices!

I am not afraid of DOCS and their games.
Someone could easily put in a notification now on me now that I already have come to their attention so of course DOCS would come running to snatch and grab and persecute all the more faster. I am aware of this.
Looking back I don't think my solicitor did enough for us, I can see holes in what was prepared and how it was fought. Apparently I had the best criminal lawyers on the coast but she was young. Nice girl but not bitey enough. I didn't know anything about law stuff back then, I am only a little bit more aware now, for the need to be aggressive. When I initially rang around lots of solicitors said they weren't interested in dealing with a child safety matter. You shouldn't stay loyal to your solicitor I've learnt!
So initially I was angry, bewildered and really doubted myself, I was shocked that a democratic government could operate like this and hide behind 'child safety' and fool the masses. Only this happened to me otherwise I think I would have trouble believing it all myself.
Anyway, I didn't trust anyone and felt like someone was going to burst through my back door and get me - still a bit scared this way actually. I had terrible dreams - all that PTSD symptomatology. But somehow you resolve that within yourself over time and move on. I am not so emotionally involved and am able to separate my feelings from what needs to be done. I think clearer. I can laugh about my whole experience but I do not laugh about the reverse abuse my child experiences at the fate of the decisions of DOCS.
I recover but not fair for this to be inflicted upon children. How can we as a community say they are most precious and then allow this system to remain in place?

But now I am ready to stand up for justice, not just about my scenario but for the people.

Someone told me to move all my evidence off site here and so I have. I have some of the most damning stuff on tape by the then CSO, it is clearly her voice.

I owe this to myself, my child and to the people of queensland. I told a DOCS worker that when I was ringing up to gather more information and she started to get upset with me and tell me that I shouldn't paste it on the internet, etc. Stupid girl she was so young and inexperienced, she should have said something like that is your choice how to deal with your experience, you would need to consider all consequences etc. Dumb government puppet, she was.
Most people are like sheep and just follow, a lot of these dumb young government slaves do this. the team leader says this so they just follow. the ones that leave are the ones that question the ethics and practices. Once the workers open their eyes they realise somethings amiss. Some must stay thinking they can make a change. I know when I was young and out of uni I would have done the same and blindly followed. I am very much a different person from how I might have been once.
Anyway it is late and I am rambling.

Keep up the good work. And give me some hints about set dates? Criminal court? (Lame)Media involved?

A TV presenter person in my life told me that all those ambulance chaser shows hears lots of stuff/ complaints about DOCS so go away. ha ha.
I was basically told a few times from a few angles that you've been screwed by the government so go back under your rock and go back to sleep.
I don't think I could live with myself if I did that - and besides what's the worst thing that can happen to me? Get killed for a cause. Bit extreme but that would be the most extreme.
Set up - loose my house, loose my job, land up in jail, or something worse.
Well it would be a good cause wouldn't it? Then I could do a schapelle and write a book from jail. So your message would still get out there somehow.

And that Julie thing was just a complete wind up. I rang the department myself to ask if it is really the case that all notification now result in a child being taken off and placed in care and investigation follows. The answer was NO and that children are only taken if necessary (that bit is not true from where I sit in the world).
But don't react to the Julie's who are just out to incite. NOt worth the energy, find out your facts first.
Good night

Good post thisisgood and very well said. I cannot believe the amount of anger that some have against Child Safety. Last night I sat back watching the footie and done a bit of scratching on companies the Police, the RTA and other fuckwits that have upset my life but not to the point where people become dedicated in getting this Child Safety. I am not a perfect parent as nobody is but my concerns are if you mix it with this Child Safety especially if its a false allegation and it gets out of control, your life can be ruined. You lose your job, as I have been told somehow or other the Department of child safety find themselves ringing your employer, after you lose your job you lose your house, because you can't pay for it, you lose your children and the rest and later its proven thats its just a false allegation, you wonder why you guys have flipped your lids and are hell bent on getting this department.

Just PM it to me thanks



You can add the Attorney general to that list and he is useless, I will select some on that list mainly the Ombudsman


Mine were ok clear wise but as you know there are bits and pieces missing everywhere. Also get you Solicitor to Subpoena the same files to see if your F.O.I are different than the Subpoenaed version.

Same here



I have high regards for Terry O'Gorman. When this all started I rang his office and spoke to Leon Ackermann, He warned me about DOCS but I didn't listen. At that time I didn't have the funds available to use them.


No Comment!


HaHa I am + my Legal team Plus the JAB and DOCS know this.


As you know they always try to intimidate you and will always try anything to upset you and this is where their lying starts.

You might live in NSW but NSW also has the same Disease and if it happened to you, you also will become an animal like the rest of us.
I was shocked the way the CSO lied and I can prove it in many ways (not telling here) Is she so fucking stupid doing this knowing it could come back and haunt her.

what i have been reading here sounds like a novel from a horror story. i would like to know how can this be happening in australia as this is a beautiful country. how do i know you people are not trouble makers making this up as i cannot believe this sort of thing is happening in this lovely country.

Lovely country, not so lovely government! That's the problem George.

What is written here is true, not overboard but Dchs will make out it is with mental illness overtones as was the case for me and I've never been diagnosed with anything but unfortunately pregnancy...it was fortunate at the time, but they are suffering now b/c of so-called risk of harm...no actual harm, risk that it could have happened and even then they had to trump up more issues b/c the original 'risk of harm' wouldn't stick for taking my children.

Hi ThisisGood, xclent u made friends with an ex CSO, very fortunate.

As for getting the word out there I did with letters, phone calls etc...and saw my kids pay even more with being separated from one another in different placements, outrageous claims of diagnostics of ADHD, add etc...b/c the kids reacted to being separated from us and each other as well as them being utterly confused b/c they don't know anything, why, how or when. The more I've complained the more my children suffered and so did my contact being denied...

Now we won our case in court, they never got their order BUT they pulling woolies now through the reunification! Oh I'm going to fight alright but they have channeled my complaints to one section where I am ignored below and at the top with them forwarding all to one section including the Complaints review unit...I will have no choice but to go to the media soon for the sake of my children's actual lives since one of them is becoming suicidal and Dept don't care...

Please George and any other normal person out there reading, this is really happening and is happening to alot of parents who are too scared to open their mouths b/c of the repurcussions coming out from it with contact being reduced or denied, kids being moved placements up to 6 times in a month if not more...separated from one another if there's more than 1, and the straight out lies, they don't even bother hiding them in my case, and in court, perjuring like there's no tomorrow and gutless lawyers know it and say nothing...

Yeh well I've had my say...I'll keep having my say for the Julie's reading and no one and nothing will shut me up or keep me quiet, not even a body bag, because the words will be at a publisher's the minute that happens -

Yes I don't keep anything on site - oh and some other advice for parents, the Children's commission is a farce, do nothing, gather info for Dchs so Dchs can rectify their stories and records...they're in it together don't you worry about that.

George

Please do some research and come back because what's written above for all these poor people has been happening. Just do a google and read and come back and listen to people like LovingMyKids and others because this is whats happening.

Horror story indeed its not a novel its fact.

Its called retaliation and they're punishing your children because you stood up to them.
I would like to ask has anyone over approached the media regarding these matters?

George
By reading your profile telling me you are retired and possibly if George is your real name you are from an ethnic origin and you are over 60.
If the above is true back in your days you would have had Honestly, Integrity, Loyalty, and many other values in life but as you might suspect all of the above are thrown out of the window today as all you have today is arrogance, mistrust of each other, no loyalty, and a human race bent on destroying each other.
Abuse of each other has been around for thousands of years but the only thing that has changed lately is someone is making money out of all this.
See Its very simple Australia is a large country with a very small population, we produce just about nothing anymore so if this is the case which it is, how do we keep the employment? Easy manufacture bullshit Employment. Do you know Australia has nearly the highest amount of Social Workers and counsellors in the World. These days even if you FART at work you need to be COUNSELLED by some fuckwit that earns over 70k a year. Do you know many years ago the state Government (won't say which one and what Government dept for reasons) had say 20 tradesmen for one supervisor, approximately 100 (say 5 gangs) tradesmen for a senior Supervisor but when I left because I was disgusted years later we had an average of 9 tradesman per Supervisor, each Supervisor had an assistant and a secretary and we had at least 6 senior supervisors and they reduced the tradesmen down to less than 60.
It was a job for the boys! Do you know the mentality they had? well this is it! We have no problem yes we know that, yes we know so lets generate the problem so we can justify the employment. and that just about sums it up, more fucking Chiefs than Indians.
Now you might ask what has this got to do with DOCS well its similar, Child abuse has been around for thousands of years and all I can see is a Government spending multi millions on employing more JAB Cops, counsellors, social workers, hangers on where most of them are not suited to the job all trying to justify their positions and all they do is generate tonnes of paperwork and at the end of the day nothing is done.
Yes I agree some parents don't deserve to have or keep their kids but this heavily employed and getting larger by the day Government Department like the SUPERVISORS ABOVE have to justify their employment at any means and do this at the expense of our families.
Look at LovingMyKids above, She complains they the Dept Of Child Safety retaliate by making it more difficult for her to get her kids back. Now tell me is this fair? Is this ethical?
No as this would probably not happen back in your days.
Like others have said, please do a search on the internet and you will see stories left right and centre to whats been happening to our children in this country, now of all the child abuse cases investigated, you can't tell me that every one of them are true and there are no false allegations going in for vindictive reasons from a family member, from a nosey neighbour and then once DOCS takes up the matter and if you rub them up the wrong way, which most would do when they come with an entourage of people, counsellors, social workers, cops, you name it and then they accuse you and you retaliate by telling them whatever and DOCS staff start a vendetta on you by turning nothing into something, sorry to say, no this is not on. This is very important for all on these public forums, do not trust anyone, for all these government departments which are out there to help you and to protect you from DOCS, they are all useless as DOCS will retaliate as soon as you employ them and at the end of the day the state government pays their wages and it is a total waste of time and as one member has PM'd me why don't you go to the media? That has to be the most total waste of time, reason, 99% of the time they won't take the stories on for many reasons including legal, so sorry to say folks, if you are stuck in one of these sticky situations, you are on your own. Its guerilla warfare.
Going back to my bottle now, its Sunday.

Hello,

Yes, I did all the official complaints AFTER it was all dropped.
During the saga I smelt a rat and started to ring other offices to find out answers. I rang official offices along with other service centres to find out my facts.
Also after I noticed my child to be quite starving during my one only weekly access visit (child was 3.5 years old and ate solidly for 45minutes as soon as we arrived to the community hall at 10am) I tried to ring my CSO dealing with my case who of course was not available. In the end I rang the after hours line and stated that I felt my child was being NEGLECTED whilst in foster care.
A few days later the CSO rang my mother and said something to the effect that 'I was going to make things difficult for myself by ringing around and complaining and that she had to go and investigate the foster home after I lodged a complaint' to the afterhours line.
So basically the CSO was sending me an indirect threat.
Later I find out that my child ended up with bruising on his bottom that lasted 1 week - because he pooed his pants whilst in foster care and the foster father 'Andrew' did it. You should read my private journalling when I found out (maybe I should type it onto here for you all to read). It was all hushed up and when we found out the then CSO said to my mother she didn't have to tell me. I was given a new case worker who stated that she couldn't find this abuse whilst in foster care in the file! But some time later I received a letter stating that 'a breach has occurred'.
Yes, I should have made it more clear - I waited until the whole saga was over and then wrote out an (80 page) letter of complaint and sent it off to the various channels. That was 11 months ago that was sent off. The investigation is still going on apparently.

And as for the CMC, I don't think they do much. I rang up and found that most of these complaints are mostly referred back to the DOCS central complaints unit.
Dont' be fooled you can't win against this organisation.
But still having said this I do think you must meticulously document and gather your evidence. Because one day something is going to happen. Your chld needs a record of what happened and one day when they are adults/ grandparents there might be payback time. Like the aboriginal people and these children (aka the next stolen generation) might be given an official apology. Anyway I have a book now on all this (and then some more).

But I think you need to do the official complaints channels as mentioned here when the saga is over.
Then when you get no response as a lot of us do then we need to find a way to band together, and then the media will take notice. I am sure they are not interested at present.

And what was my heinous crime against my child?
I had fantasies about leaving him at a shopping centre and running off - catch a bus, plane and vanish. This was after conflict with the father. It was in the middle of the night and I rang the hospital to talk about it. They (put in a notification) said would you be ok if we sent the DOCS to see you. I said sure. as I had nothing to hide. I didn't know what DOCS was all about then - it was before mandatory reporting for nurses. So eventually I get back to sleep and wake up next day as usual and get on with it. Around mid morning DOCS arrived ( 2 young CSO woman) and talked to me and then said you need a rest - give us your child either you give him voluntarily or we take him involuntarily. I was confused, uhh ok. That was the beginning of it.
Later I am told by a CSO that 'thoughts are enough for us' - I have this on tape and am happy to play it to anyone who wishes to listen.
DOCS decided I had mental health issues and pushed it to the inth degree, I had to see a psychiatrist the whole time docs were involved. Eventually the psychiatrist wrote there is nothing wrong with her - no axis 1 or axis 11 diagnosis can be made and having her interact with her child on various occassion seems entirely normal.
So why do I have to see a psychiatrist the whole time docs are involved in our lives and then never again once they are finished with me. It was the CSO who stated 'we want you to see a psychiatrist for the rest of this year' - that was without any medical recommendation.
Remember I am actually a psychiatric nurse and was often in charge of the shifts during the whole time! Work that out - if my long time colleagues can't see anything wrong with me- who are professionals in the area of mental health, yet docs reckon I was mad.
Yep, I'm fucking mad alright at the way docs push people around and try and diagnose and dictate what's going on.
I did have post-natal depression but not whilst docs were involved in my life - I am the same as I was then as I am now. The ex CSO said that docs cannot take a child off a parent on the grounds of post natal depression.
The ex CSO is shocked when I told her the truth that docs took my child off me for a total of 7 months due to being what they classified as 'child being at risk'.
She said that the parent needs to be either incapable of looking after the child or unwilling to look after the child. She said the question is are they capable; are they willing. Now I realise why the CSO was writing such subject data into her court prepared papers as 'mother said to child sorry but I cannot look after you' (I never said that and anyway the CSO was not there at that time in the morning) and why they were trying out to say I was delusional when I dropped the child off to childcare that day. The day care mother was livid and wrote affidavit material to state that she never said I was paranoid. It was bizarre.
Remember I am the trained psych. nurse (past 15 years at the time - with lots of experience). Now that I talk to ex CSO I see what docs were trying to do, what sort of picture they were trying to paint.

Lots of stuff make sense to me now. It isn't about what's in the best interest of the child at all, but rather a legal game. Government against the little man. Power hungry people with their own agendas. Too much power given to the CSO.
There should be preventative measures first. There should be psych. trained nurses or Medical officers who accompany these CSO when on their rampages into your homes too.
I better shut up. I have too much to say and I could get in trouble with the government somehow. Like loose my nursing registration for being a big mouth. But that will just add to my book!
Talk to you some more....

How much do CSO's get paid??

Hello George,

Today I read your profile too. I too thought you must be retired out there at Albany Creek. I didn't necessarily think you would be of ethnic origin though. I think it is sweet that you are interesting in this forum. Good on you and God bless you!

Seriously consider if what we are placing on this forum is correct - I know there are 2 sides to every story. But why are so many people all talking about the same common themes.

A long term colleague who saw what happened to me said 'if they can take you child off you then they could take any child off anyone' - see even stated to the docs psychiatrist that she 'wished she was as together as I was when her chid was young' - of course the docs psychiatrist didn't write that into her report did she?

At my child's school I see a child who looks very neglected to me. Seriously rough. I am informed by my child that this kid is the naughty kid in the class too. DOCS aren't involved there, yet there is obvious neglect and poor parenting behind the scenes. I see other cases along this theme too but no docs involved there. So I asked why were docs involved in our lives yet I am the most pedantic mother around. Like I play Mozart as my child goes off to sleep - have since child was baby. Pedantic about getting right food into this child, pedantic about how much (uggh) TV is viewed. Pedantic about what I say in front of my child and aware of modellig behaviours. I have had this child enrolled into private GPS school well before DOCs were ever involved. My house is pretty clean and ordered. My child wants for nothing. (got the picture?) So why my child? A DOCS worker said because you brought the attention onto yourself by ringing. Even my sister said it was my fault that my child was abused whilst in foster care because I rang them!

So consequently I have wondered why don't docs take every child off every parent at birth. And presto then they could do their twisted investigation on eveyone, then there would be NO DISCRIMINATION ha ha ha. Imagine no child would live with their parents and the government could employ child catchers (like out of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang movie) that run up and down the streets and sweep the children off to remote large farms type orphanages where these big fat arsed bull dog dyke types dressed like sargeants could run run the show. No parents, no power just the government running large institutions for children.
At the moment because not all parents are scrutinised by docs there is a reverse discrimination. BRING IT ON - then there might be a mass outcry from the peoples.

OMG, maybe docs were right I really am mad aren't i?
Certainly twisted and jaded.

And by the way I am very much into helping the underdog.
It is unfortunate that some people have long term suffering from mental health issues (and I am not intentionaly taking the mickey out of these people). And having mental health issues is NO reason for docs to remove children from their homes.