Docs workers mostly social workers, psychologist with minimal qualification are on around 50,000 per annum. It goes up with years of experience.
Registered nurses are on around 66,000 per annum.
They aren't paid huge amounts. Most out of uni can get a job there, but will use this as a spring board to elsewhere. No many will stay and make careers out of being CSO/ Team Leader roles.
So these offices have an enormous turn over of staff.

Too much what ever it is!.

But this is where the problem lies, Inexperienced kids just out of Uni controlling your lives.

Especially on top of their big annual wages, if they go into remote area's they also get $10,000 bonus every 6 months to help pay off the Hecs payments... or what ever they use it for!

thisisgood,

I have gone through nothing compared to some of you guys and gals out there. We still have our three kids from day one, DOCS stole our kids from school and gave them back (my 8 year old was cornered at school and a tape recorder shoved in the child's face). DOCS & JAB visited me at my place, I stupidly let them into the house. They told me the complaint, and they pissed off but the fun started there with their lies mainly from DOCS and the JAB cop but I was charged so work that out.
Like I said before once my case is over and if all goes well the very next day WAR will be declared against DOCS and I will use whatever legal way to get my revenge on a DOCS worker (See I don't tell you what she was as that narrows it down, I don't want to give them any clues)
Not saying More !!!!!!!!!!!!! If what happened to you guys and gals happened to us well I don't and won't say more about how I would have reacted but I believe you must stand up for yourself if in your eyes and the laws eyes you are innocent.
Remember what I said earlier, DOCS operate outside the law and the cops know this and let them get away with it.

thisisgood,

A lot of what you say is very similar to what I have said before especially when it comes to the media.

Look at who is on line!! (at the moment ALL DOCS RELATED).

Many times I have tried to go to the media, email, phoned, and no-one returned calls with one guy telling us that our story, even though tragic, won't be touched due to the legality issues of it and I presume also the many aspects of government dept's involved. Like I said previously, even the Children's commission work for the Dchs in some sly conniving, Russian spy aspect way...oooh getting too overboard maybe but that's how it feels...

i'm real sorry for your story thisisgood, your poor little boy...how disgusting! How scary and frustrating also...I would suggest anyone to get hold of a damn good tape recorder b/c it is legal to tape conversations that you are also a part of, it cannot be denied and also a video camera for meetings. If they don't want to be taped, how honest were they going to do things then?

It is not against the law or child safety practice manual to tape meetings with Dchs staff, they actually have a procedure of how to act if this is the case stating that it isn't illegal to do so...

Yes IHateGovnt Dchs love getting the kids at school, but they have to report that in a book also under section 17 of the Act to do so otherwise it is illegal and a libel offense...check it out!

What a JOKE!

All I ask for the Department of Child Safety Officer was to keep a open mind that the person that put the complaint in against me could be lying but NOOOOOO they don't do that because DOCS workers are the JUDGE,JURY and the EXECUTOR.
ALL I asked was a fair honest investigation but did you have to FUCKING LIE, yes MOLE LIE do you know what the work lie is NO I bet not!.
Again mole why did you LIE MOLE which made my problem 100 times worst than what it was, You Idiot I have the complete brief in order with recordings and it show you lied FULL FUCKING STOP.
Now tell me The Australian Public, If the two of us in a room in front of a camera gave our stories who would you believe?
I BET THE DOCS MOLE and not me.
But After your read the Police Brief, You read the Transcripts IN ORDER and listen to the tapes you will then know who the FUCKING LIAR IS.
It show you that you cannot judge a book by its cover.

See lovingMyKids the media are useless, all they want today are high profile scandals.I emailed the papers and never got a reply back from any of them and forget the current affair shows.
One day there will be a big scandal about DOCS and typical like the ACA's and Today Tonight the next thing they say at the end of the story is "QUOTE" IF YOU HAVE SUFFERED A SIMILAR STORY WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IT!! Now this is what I am waiting for to jump on the band wagon.

Yes all has to be recorded if they steal your kids from school (AGAIN BITCHES APPROXIMATELY 250 KIDS WITNESSED THIS AND YOU TELL ME HOW DO YOU THINK THEY FELT THE NEXT DAY GOING TO SCHOOL. DOCS ARE THE REAL CHILD ABUSERS)which it was and If I remember correctly they can only keep them for a max of 8hrs.

I wonder why many don't stay and make careers out of it. Could it be the type of work? Or the corruption? Or the people who do the wrong thing?

I had been told before that CSO's earn $80,000 per annum but I wasn't sure if this was true.

I'm really concerned about the damage that some of these workers have cause some of the members of this site and other people in the community. I'm also concerned that the actions/vandettas etc of these workers then gives child protection a bad name.

I can't think of what would drive someone, a supposed professional at that to do such horrible things to another person. Maybe I was brought up differently to them, but I just couldn't imagine wanting to destory someone's life so much that I would go to the extremes that you guys have spoken about.

My heart goes out to each and everyone of you who have suffered due to CSO's who are hell bent on hurting people.

I just finished getting of the phone from our family solicitor as the family wanted to make a appointment to see her about changes to our family will and just before i got off the phone i asked our solicitor have you ever had anything to do with this child safety department and she asked why are you asking i replied by saying lots of people on the internet are complaining about them is this true and she said keep away from them they're enough to make a average young family turn off from having kids.

Thank you George (are you Greek by any chance).
See the average public has not got a clue how bad this Dept Of Child Safety is. You have been awaken about this by asking your Solicitor so now I would like you to try by asking others walking this earth and this way you can make your own opinion how bad DOCS are.

See George he who seeks finds.

This solicitor said it all....

Mission impossible!!

Would it be possible to have any Solicitor in QLD even the ones that do only conveyancing that don't know DoCHS.?

Now that's a good question as my opinion would be that 100% of Solicitors today would defiantly know who DOCS are.

Hello my allies,

Back from work today.
I wonder about those persons in the legal profession - the solicitors, barristers and magistrates. If they know how corrupt docs are then why aren't they saying something?
I can answer my own question - because it makes them money.
It's like years ago I knew a girl who had quite a bad case of body dysmorphia (think spelt correct) along with a severe case of anorexia nervosa. Anyway she kept seeing plastic surgeons and getting plastic surgery done to correct all her body faults. She had a nose job, breast implants,lips powted out job, lipo suction on her thighs, stomach tuck, heaps of dermabrasion of her face, and tatooing of lip and eyebrow line.
Anyway at the time (like any psych. nurse would ask) why the hell isn't the plastic surgeon sending her to a psychiatrist for obvious body dymorphia problem. She thought along the lines of 'if only I could get this part of my body fixed up then I'll be ok'. Well they didn't because she was their income. It's unethical isn't it. And guess what (ha ha) she was studying psychology and ended up working in some assessment area for children. I moved from Brisbane and lost contact with her. She was a personal friend of mine since childhood. She was last around 34 yo when I last saw her - God knows what other plastic surgery she has had since.
She probably works in one of the docs departments now.
I should ring her up out of the blue after all these years and then tell you guys ha ha (but I wouldn't 'cause I would be befriending her again for the wrong reasons)

Information/ stories from the ex CSO still coming - I have to work on it and get her into conversation and swing the conversation to find out my personal agenda.

I am not lying, truely true my stories.

thisisgood

You read what Cathy said that Lawyers today are making a killing and at the end of the day it make me sick that things are this way money,Money,Money $$$$$$.
As for your other question about Solicitors, Barristers, and magistrates well what can I say, I don't get to speak to any Magistrates, I rarely get to speak to any Barristers but I have had the opportunity to speak to a few Solicitors and yes they all know about how they DOCS have a habit of twisting the truth (Spoken to three)and as one said to me there is always a ongoing Royal Commission going on against DOCS here in QLD

Just wanted to let people know here, all Dchs computers are now integrated with other states with now Dchs and Docs of NSW and Vic have all joined forces...

The wife and myself have been reading this thread and other sites like altnews and anything we can find on the internet and most of the complaints seem to be the same.
People have changed in the last 20 years, people have become more independent more than ever and more people today are deciding not to have kids and as a couple we have been trying find a excuse in not having them but after reading all this on the internet the both of us have decided last night we don't want kids as we love our freedom and considering we read the amount of people being abused by this docs this gives us another reason why we do not want to have kids.

You know that is so sad, but I fully understand...before hubby and I split, we were so keen on having another child, our 5th but going through this I'm never thinking of having kids again ever, and for the first time I would contemplate abortion if I ever found out I was pregnant...

Another catch 22, If I ever was pregnant, I would have not choice but to have an abortion which would be alot better and less cruel than to have it born and taken immediately off me...

The only way Australia can increase its population is by importing them as I hear today so many young couples that don't want kids and they don't even know who docs are.

That's absolutely disgusting, Are you saying that if you fell pregnant again as soon as the child is born this docs would take the child off you?.

The last time I heard of something like this was back in the days of the Roman Empire.

Very sad indeed, what have we come too in this country of ours.

Hi yas,

I think that is the wrong reason not to have children thought - but that is my personal opinion. How old are you? Wait till you get to around 36 and your biological clock goes off and then you go on a soul searching journey. But then it is just hormones doing that and as humans we are wired with a primary drive to reproduce.

Thanks for the info lovingmykids. Sounds like it might get worse than any better in the near future!

I also found out today that if you want your solicitor to subpoena your docs file it must be done whilst a case is still on!! Not afterwards.
Nothing like being forwarned.

cheers

Jaremt,

I note your comment.
If there has been a prior notification and docs involved in your life and you are now pregnant again. A notice is placed through to docs. they are fully informed. They can whisk the child off you at birth. A woman down the street has had her child taken off her at birth (it was her 3 child I think). this woman has her 13 yo living with her. She has had brain damage in past and probably not as high functioning as she once was.
Just ring the Royal Women's hospital and query this information - you will see it is true.

Now the other day a young girl walked into our service and anyway it turned out that she is around 18 yo, homeless, alone, God knows what else happening in her life too and pregnant and into her second trimester. She said she wanted an abortion but her GP (gosh, some of them are ignorant!) said she was too far into the pregnancy.
I got her to ring Children by Choice help line and she got the phone numbers of termination clinics that could help her. I ran into in the street some days later and went up and talked to her and she said she was booked in.
When I informed my colleagues, they said 'well it would have been taken from her one way or the other!' And that comment referred to docs would snatch and grab that child so fast.
If docs could take my child when I am not homeless, not young, no drug and alcohol issues, no mental health issues, have family, (but I am a single mother) work as registered nurse, all because I made that fated phone call then watch the rest of you!!! Oh and I never harmed my child one bit they took him as 'being at risk'.
So if he was at risk then he must still be at risk now - cause nothing has changed.
I must be the only registered nurse in queensland that has had my child taken off me. Does anyone know of anyone else?
You should have seen the lies that docs wrote in their legal paperwork. Fucking amazing. I would loose my registration if I acted in such unethical (not to mention the threat and intimidation) manners.

Oh shit, who's that knocking on my door. Police with tape recorders?
Are you a suspected criminal like me?

Yeah docs, go on screw us into the ground because there are a group of us that intend to have the last say.

Jaremt was talking about LovingMyKids in the quote above.

The Cops love sticking those tape recorders in ya face don't they, But I do object this to a child that is only 8 years old.
What a bunch of bullies JAB cops are. My child cried and screamed for weeks after that, nightmare after nightmare, night after night. (Notice i don't give the gender of my child)
The Public has not got a fucking clue what is going on the real world of these types of police investigations.

Have a read of this story which someone posted in altnews nearly 2 years ago.
Its about some poor family that had troubles with their son and thinking they would do the right thing they decided to ring Child Safety for help and they got more than they bargained for.
http://altnews.com.au/drop/node/1731

This is one of the reasons why you never ring the Department of child safety for any help even if you have a child that is a bit unruly because this Department full of ZEALOTS immediately look on their dark side and automatically think there has been child abuse.
Do a Google and have a read of some of the rubbish they have on their site thanks to the State Government. I have never read so much rubbish in my life.
Do a search and look for multiple links about SIGNS OF CHILD ABUSE. These SICKO"S even say how many time your child should be Masturbating and if its over a certain amount please make a appointment as we would like to interview you.

Wow I wish i found this site before, am in total shock that there are so many of us out there, in the same situation. The department are doing different tactics with us now, they arrested my partner for trespassing in our place....Yes trespassing, he lived with me....The entered with police without showing ID also. Used standover tactics, and I was made to sign a piece of paper saying he would not have contact with my daughter or they would remove her.
He has also been arrested since them exactly the same again, now he is staying in this dirty hostel. They even came to my house whilst I was at work and interviewed the children without me present. My youngest daughter loved my partner, but now is too scared even to mention his name. Even though I have agreed to him not seeing any of the children...They are now telling me that I can not have any contact with him at all, no phone calls, nothing or they would remove all my children and i would never see them again. They have corrupted my youngest daughters mind also. She is scared of my partner, the police and the department. Afraid when someone knocks at the door now. Does anyone have the right to destroy a family, and now the love between two?? They are doing this as we were getting closer to getting help Im sure. At one stage, we both were going to court for placement for his son, in a different state and as we entered the courtroom 5 police officers pulled us over and dragged us to the police station, saying they had a report that if my partner didnt get any answers he would take hostages.....Unbelievable...We since found out it was the departments involvement once again. Where is the justice. My daughter is expecting her first child at Christmas, and I feel so sorry for her, as one phone call could ruin her family too.....What has this world come too?????

I can't shut up...

I would like to personally thank the judgement of the docs workers ( the collaborative effort of intake officer, CSO and team leader) who took my child off me yet NONE of the criteria for abuse was occurring to child except I had thoughts that I would love to run away (bring it on = I still fantasize about wanting to run away!) and thanks docs for your action of placing my child into foster care where there resulted in an obvious case of
1. Neglect and
2. physcial harm towards my child.
3. God knows what else - remember I said child sexually acted out and was very withdrawn and on goes the list.One very angry child was returned to me.

Remember only about 10 hours work to pass complete strangers as foster carers and around 3 hours work to pass family as approved kinship carers. It doesn't take much acting to pass that piddly amount of time it takes.
And remember the CSO stated that '70 yo is too old to be a kinship carer' so your child has to go to foster care (where the abuse of sorts can occur - and thanks Ihategovdept for that link because it spelt out clearly that my child suffered abuse according to this criteria whilst in foster care.

And whilst I am at it and on a roll. I would like to publicly thank the father of my child and his parents who decided that they would get the boot in whilst I was down. If you lot read this you know what I mean

The words #%$#$#^# comes to my mind. Sorry if I am crude.

By day I am mild mannered, reasonably professional at work, civilised etc. , attentative mother BUT then in the evening I change into my anti docs cloak.
I will never forget this experiences and have justice to seek for not just us but for all the queenslanders that have experienced this and those who will experience this in their futures (shudder).

Docs are evil. Docs = 666. The anti-christ.

BUT HEY DOCS why don't you come and visit us again especially now that I have admitted that I still have thoughts of running off (tonight I would go to somewhere like Mexico - that would be interesting) and if 'thoughts are enough' for you then this should be enough for your assessment data.
Yeah, run off, catch a plane to get me to Mexico and yes, if you are asking, leave the little one home alone!
Oh shit, there's just one problem. I gave my back pack to the lifeline bin. Damn.

Silly me ... that's right docs only take children as a last resort. I think that could be a smokescreen bullshit statement.

DOCS are like crocs in the river - snatch and grab and you go down very fast. (apologies to A....'s wife and family!).
Where there's a creek there's a croc and where there's a dept of child safety office there's a....

Gotta shut up and better go.

It is hard to shut up. Has anyone got some gaffa tape? mmmmrrrhfredmgmmrmrmammnfjhfjgfmmnmnmf

Your story is VERY,VERY,VERY one more time VERY! similar to what I have been told.

DO NOT TRUST YOUR PHONES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any of them.
DO NOT TRUST ANYBODY.
DO NOT AND NEVER FOR FUCK SAKE SIGN ANYTHING.
Unfortunately the rubbish you signed was it an official document or was it just a bit of plain paper?.
If the allegation was from a sexual nature they will steal the kids again and again and they will try to put one child against another, they're good at this, personally today I think cops masturbate too many times in front of their TV at home watching too many episodes of ZEALOT CSI and other cops shows.

The tactics they use are disgraceful, trying to extract information out of a child.
They don't give a FUCK about the abuse they hand out to the children as all they care about is getting a fucking conviction.

REMEMBER VERY CAREFULLY!!!!!

They the Police, Your DOCS, and other Government services will try to EXTRACT whatever evidence they can out of children and even if its not Ethical. Be careful of their COUNSELING SERVICES, they are not COUNSELING they are Phishing expeditions where they are also try to put one child against the other in separate rooms and one of the FAT OBESE heavy weights come out and tells the other child in the other room well JONNY your little sister has told us everything so you might as well tell use the rest.
The FAT OBESE GROSS HEAVY WEIGHT also has a problem and watches too many EPISODES OF CSI.

THIS IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE, PLEASE GET A LAWYER and let him or her instruct you but again watch your step, think smart and keep record of everything.
Geeeeeeee WIZ I like Mobile Phone towers? You know they leave a footprint you know? YOU FUCKING IDIOT COPS!!!!You can see your uneducated TECHNOLOGY brain doesn't work the way mine does.

SEE YA IN COURT.

I will never shut up about DOCS, I want the word to get out about this site and others about the real Child Abusers.
Boy O Boy Don't I have a lot to add but It won't happen yet and I have a STRONG reason for this.

NOW EVERYBODY READING THIS, PLEASE READTHE BIT ABOVE AGAIN and AGAIN and TELL ME, WHAT FUCKING DAMAGE WOULD THEY DO TO YOUR CHILDREN IF THE ABOVE HAPPENED TO YOUR CHILD? You Know I was Lucky the COPS backed off just after my case started, REASON THEY SMELT A RAT but I was still charged but strangely I got a feeling of apology from the cops that they were pressured to charge me by DOCS. You know even the head honcho COP said to me personally "Something is wrong with this kid that put the allegation in and a lot more, A LOT MORE THAT MY SOLICITOR ONLY KNOWS" but I was still charged by this new system of a unstoppable once it starts 93a statement.

Now tell me what damage could be done to your children if the above happened to your children and no abuse ever happened.?

Unrepairable damage has been done to these Children.

I also agree there would be uncountable unrepairable damage done to a child if this is the way they operate.

What I cant understand is they say they have to help the child and if this is the way they help the child I would hate to see what not helping the child would be.

Been on holidays dudes and i see there has be a few joining this forums lately and they're mainly all Women.
Three cheers for you girls standing up for your rights, this thread is the talk of the town up our way so keep it up girls stick it to those sluts that want to rip into you and your kiddies and at the same time where are all your gutless husbands? have they just pissed off and let you carry the candle because this is not fair as they also should be on here ripping it into DoCHS and the pigs they suck up too.

+ 1 bro and another + 1 from my brother.