Cathy,
You shit stirring bitch.
For all to know Cathy has been trawling around this entire site for years shovelling shit and she is good at it and I am used to her and also I get a laugh out of her so don't take it personal if she sends you a hook, just don't bite if you want to beat her.

It sounds like Hespera has been reading the manual or has she or he been trained by it?
The Plot thickens!! but I have to agree what Cathy said in her other post as we all know her brother is a Lawyer (She keeps telling us all).
Parents today are generally concerned if a child starts wetting its pants or bed and taking their child to seek medical help or advice as all the programmed Zealots come out of the wood work thinking of only the one thing.

Hespera is right with her statement regarding child abuse but do you think Docs look for that themselves when assessing when a child is at risk of this abuse? I have seen a number of children doing physical issues that disturb me while visiting my children in school with these other children having a clear sexual abuse issue going on with 2 children having confided in me that this was taking place from the mother's boyfriends! I told the principal and this child and the other one both still live in their homes with only 1 visit from Dchs.

Both homes have severe domestic violence with police constantly there and still docs don't return, they wonder why children end up dead...either by murder or suicide.

Just got advised about a child in the Department's care up north I think committed suicide...would love the link for that online from the courier mail.

I wouldn't care if you did work for DOCS, you have a right to be here and so do others but I am only here for one and only reason and I want to stay on topic.
Why do some of DOCS CSO's LIELIELIELIELIELIELIEFAT FUCKING LIES

I am always trying to find a loop hole in anything, after all I have had 3 years of it being focused and I want you all to remember this as I have SOMETHING, SOMETHING once released will send shivers to every Prosecutor in this country, and I will make this my priority that every LAWYER in this country knows what I am about to say.
You watch them try to find a way around it and I bet the Crown and DOCS will never be able to use it AGAIN even in court.
I am surprised nobody has stumbled onto it but on the other hand in the last three years I have spent thousands of hours trawling the internet and talking to people.


Ohhhhhhh Boy I would like to say more but I won't and the last time someone crossed me it cost them MILLIONS and it took me only months to figure that one out.
There is always a weakness, I will twist and probe till I get what I want

Reason for the edit was 1 of the LIES didn't show up in that list of them

What you have written here has something that I am about to release next year that will send shivers through the Prosecutors fraternity.
TRUST YOU WILL HIDE WHEN THIS COME OUT hide from the parents that you reported to the principal, you did what you thought genuinely was right but were you?
You will have to stay patient until late 2009 when all will be revealed.

The reason is they didn't use the magic word sexual abuse.
mention that and they will be there in a flash removing the father in seconds.

LovingMyKids
You have enough on your plate why would you want to be involved with someones elses problem?

I learnt my lesson the hard way.
If it doesn't involve myself, my family or close friends I look the other way. If I see a kid needing help, I look the other way, If I see a young girl or boy trying to attract attention for help, I look the other way, If I see a cop car involved in an accident and the cops need help, Sorry I will go to the shop and buy a meat pie and coke and sit there and enjoy my pie, If I see a DOCS bitch having a bad day. NO COMMENT.

Don't let Cathy scare you away.

Yes we know all types of Abuse exist including Child Sexual abuse that has been going on since day dot but we all must be focused here on this thread about the lies that one case worker can generate that will turn someones life upside down.

Have you ever known a case worker at the Department of Child safety to ever lie causing major problems to any individual?

1953 Views today, and yes don't worry DOCS are reading too.Hi DOCS

You know why I involve myself b/c I hope someone involves themselves if my kids were being sexually abused! These kids are in definite harm and risk of harm. Yeh I have problems on my plate but I noticed this before my problems appeared on my plate and couldn't ignore a little girl's plea for help...could you?! The 'fathers' weren't the kids fathers but step fathers sexually abusing these kids.

No I don't want other families involved in Dchs but when there is actual harm happening, I've also noticed the Dchs never involve themselves which disgusts me...but it happens.

What you've got to say I Hate GOV DEPT next year sounds really promising but once you spill, most will probably say, yep heard and been there with still nothing done...nothing surprises me anymore the lengths this crap gov dept get away with.

I here for the one and only reason.
Mayham and confusion.
What I have discovered will cause problem in our legal system and I don't give a stuff what damage it causes as sometimes the laws need to be amended.

remember all we need today is a smart lawyer to find a good loophole and do the same for us, give us what we want, and that is a massive class action law suit against the Queensland Government that will just about cripple it.

Now I would love to see that.

No it has nothing to do with what you have said above.
I don't trust anybody, Not even my solicitor on this one.
All my life i have dedicated my life trying to find weaknesses in electronics systems.
Now I doing the same in say another area, I would like to say more but put it this way you would NEVER in 2 million years expect what I have done and yes its legal to gather this knowledge.
Anyhow enough said. Watching the Battle of Britain tonight, I like it because the brains were in the smallest people that couldn't fight, couldn't fly Spitfires, but could find weaknesses in the German war machine.
To me I love watching true stories or movies like this as it give me inspiration to never give up the fight against DOCS.

Hello all,

I have just read the past 24 hours worth of postings. Good stuff, keep it up folks.
Now some questions and comments -
Just what the hell is a 'mat muncher'?
And about the wetting beds, sexually acting out.
Well it is just one symptom and can not be used to diagnose.
Yes, as a student nurse, I witnessed (on community placement) a very disabled child masturbating continuously and screaming away. It was uncomfortable to be in a room of adults and disabled children and seeing this, i can assure you. Very primal drive and no social skills. I won't forget that experience, I didn't know which way to look.
I know kids who are bed wetters but I am pretty sure there is no sexual abuse but rather both those boys that come to my mind both could be classified as conduct disorder and have quite a few behavioural issues.
But first one needs to rule out organic courses for this bed wetting.
I am personally of the idea that docs only interested in sex abuse allegations when they want to get at a parent (bring on a case!) and yet have witnessed (part of my story) whereby a child was returned to their home, started sexually acting out and presto docs didn't do anything, no investigation, even though there were about 3 or 4 incidences reported. I suppose it didn't suit their allegations against mother for them to be notified about possible father (?) abusing child when they have glorified this chroncially unemployed, drug fucked man child and said that he was the more suitable parent over the mother who was working in a psych. unit at the time as a registered nurse, and alway worked in her choosen profession. It wouldn't feed into their primary concerns so they dropped it.docs were the ones who sent the child out of state and wrote letter of support to father's solicitor to apply for full custody.
Yes, I know of one teenage boy that docs has fucked over and over and over. He tried to commit suicide in the past 6 months - he is lost. He regularly self harms, identifies himself with homeless youth and has been fucked over in foster homes too. Personal friend links there and not professional.
Remember I am the only registered nurse in queensland that had my child removed off me due to child being deemed 'at risk' of mother. They tried to say I was mad, bad and a danger to my child.
Hello docs/ government if you read this and you have read my complaint you will know it is me and hey, I am not scared of docs. I intend to keep blabbing away. One senior colleague who knows me very well both personally and in a professional capacity said it was a 'miscarriage of justice' what docs did to my family. I have the tapes and full story of what happened. Mr C Fass said it was unusual for docs to go for middle class, professionals like me in my role.
Yep, I said I would 'sit up and shut up' to your docs chosen psychologist (He wrote it in his report) but i think I was lying now as I can't shut up about how corrupt docs are, not only in my story but in so many others around me.

Anyway, Mr Ihategov I think Mayhem and Confusion sound good to me. I have some ideas.
Does anyone else have ideas about how to
1. educate the people about docs current practices 2.stop the docs monster roaming around and snatching and grabbing children and 3. make them more accountable and stop the lying.
PM me if you do.
cheers and good night.

Whats a mat muncher?
Easy
Two women facing in the opposite direction doing naughty things to each other.

Like I hate said if you want DoCHS to be involved you have to mention the sensitive words like SEXUAL ABUSE and while you're at it you have to rub them up the wrong way and don't forget you have to point them in the right direction too and its like a red flag to a bull for them and if you don't do this nothing will happen and as some have said without the magic words they are not interested.

You have to remember DoCHS is mainly run by women, a percentage of them are men hating dykes who have only one thing in their sights and that is getting revenge against men.

Fair dinkum Crow you're a shocker!

Has everyone noticed lately that the papers have been quiet up here in QLD on Child Safety and the poxy Child Support bleed men dry agency QLD?

This site brings back memories.
http://www.mensrights.com.au/

I agree.

Yes, The Department Of Child Safety has been out of the papers lately, Don't worry its the calm before the storm.
Have you noticed its always the same reporters that report for DOCS? Also have you noticed for the few that when you email them they never reply. I wonder who they're protecting?

I was having my dinner, watching the news and I see the state government has introduced new laws to toughen the laws on bashing up ambulance officers and parents giving their children alcohol to celebrate the end of school. They also said their would be a larger fine for leaving children under 12 unattended in cars.

But the bit that made me fucking choke was they have also introduced new laws and higher penalties for anyone assaulting a Child Safety officer and who else do you see on TV but our great Attorney General Kerry Shine. Normally you only see him appealing against light sentences given to sexual offenders. Actually I have never seen him for anything else. But what bothers me is its so easy for them to introduce tougher laws to protect Child Safety officers, what about at the same time introducing new laws to protect the public from these dirty filthy fucking lying DOCS cunts? I am fucking angry like hell. This government reminds me of a one way valve, everything is always in one direction, you are all a bunch of fucking zealots. Why don't you look at the root of the problem, why people are bashing child safety officers? The only bashing I am going to be doing is on this fucking internet site, you fucking low lifes. I am sick and tired of seeing stories like this on TV where they don't get it right. I am against anyone assaulting anyone but why in the fuck do we have so many people assaulting Department of Child Safety officers? There must be a reason. Look at me for example, I am venting my anger on this internet site because of one dirty, filthy, fat, fucking mole that lied. Kerry Shine, why don't you introduce laws to protect the public against monsters like I have had to deal with. Monsters that deliberately lied, that can be proven in a court of law and have caused our headaches. Again, I am venting my anger on the internet, but most younger people today that are hot headed and have had a situation similar or identical to mine, do you honestly expect them to keep their cool, when they clearly see if their case becomes similar to mine where a Department of Child Safety officer has set them up?

I am lost for words, I am angry and I know that you Kerry Shine will never do anything about this, but I can promise you one thing, when my mess is over, the CMC will be the first I will be notifying, followed by you very quickly, but knowing you, you will get one of your law books out and find a loop hole.

Isn't what they say in court when you are found innocent, you are not really found innocent, its just that the crown doesn't have enough evidence to convict you and they use this in the lower courts to get around the payment of compensation. All I can say is I hope the fucking lot of you rot in hell.

You beat me to it!
I said to the missus i wonder if I Hat Gov was watching the news?

Your not the only one that choked on their evening meal because i nearly did the fucking same.
This is nothing but a fucking joke
Piss off you wonder why people have lost respect for the law today.
i'm getting drunk 2 nite

someone else told me the same

Look If they introduced new laws that if anyone bashed a child safety officer and at the same time the opposite end of the stick we give one back to the public that if a Child safety offices acts not in a professional way "EG" LYING, or any other serious matter!!they need to be punished and I would not have a problem of passing the laws but you fucking idiots! why do you think the Departments officers get under so many peoples skin? WHY DO I HAVE TO REPEAT IT AGAIN!

Hello all,

Well firstly I am sorry I asked what a 'mat muncher was' uggh.

And I am over awed that there are these penalties for bashing a CSO.
Yes, I fully agree it really is like a one way valve where the community gets more and more penalised and it is just giving these CSO's more power. Now I reckon they will be encouraging someone the deck them just so they can press charges and then also make their case more stronger against the parent. I can envisage it now written on their affidavit crap - child's parent displaying violent tendencies. Child at further risk now as parent witnessed to be violent.
Yeah, we know how you guys will twist this to suit your perverted needs.
I always say there is a way to talk to people and another way to talk to people and I understand a lot of these CSO would incite these parents to wanting to punch the shit out of them.
Yes, and I am non violent.
I intend to scan all queensland newspapers tomorrow.

good night.

And I bet you will find the same reporters.

Trust me thisisgood, the war against them has only started

You see how in QLD police cars will be allowed to run advertising on them.
Maybe we should advertise on them what we think about DOCS.

Yes I'm getting off, This has sickened me and trust me this will only give DOCS more power to abuse parents and more the parents feel violated the more the bashing's will continue and only give these child stealer more ammo to steal your kids and hand them to out of work foster carers

I'm sorry but I will have to disagree with you on this one. I don't see a problem with introducing laws that stop people from bashing ANYONE. CSO's are people too, and regardless of what their job is they don't deserve to be bashed. They have a job to do, plain and simple and while the job that they do isn't always as it should be (ie corrupt workers and lies) they still don't deserve to be bashed. It's not okay for police to be bashed, it's not okay for community members to be bashed and as far as I'm concerned it's not okay for CSO's to be bashed either. And why are CSO's being bashed? Well one possible reason is because they are working in such an emotionally charged arena and what you usually find is that parents who have done the wrong thing and are violent people are the ones who attack CSO's.

Thanks for you response I hate Govt, since the last post, things have even got deeper, finding a lawyer is hard, have phoned many but to no avail, but one lawyer did say to me, get a list from the department of the demands they are making, in writing, then take it to a lawyer. They are still saying we cant be together and they have someone else involved, contacting my family asking about my partner and I, and of all uncanny things, this person they have contacting the family is a sleaze and they feel violated by him, he is also a con, that has been in jail, and is currently going to court for giving false evidence to police. And the department is allowing this person to report to them. I have not had any conversation with the department since they arrested my partner, they have been contacting my children. They have damaged my children and their faith in society. The system has failed my family. And also has given them a dislike to the Police and Government Bodies.

Again be careful, don't trust anybody and its a pity today that 98% of Lawyers only concerns are $$$$$$ and that's it

PLEASE READ what I said months ago, its not legal advice but its a indication on what to do and not to do.
I don't know about your state and even if the SA police say they can't record you phone conversation without you knowing DON'T TRUST THEM and the PHONES!!!! PS they get away with here in QLD with a loop hole.
Don't you like these Loop holes, The Cops taught me all about Loop holes and in the next 12 months I will use one of their open loop holes against them and before they get a chance to close it the infection will have festered in.

Yes this is yet another, and this is the man I am fighting for. Read it and u will see what damage they have done for years and have covered up for years also, the proof of innocence is there waiting for it to become public, and hopefully obtain the freedom so much desired. But can you imagine how many years of pain and torture he has suffered at the hands of the department. Can this ever get rectified. Are they making it harder, because we were getting closer....not sure, he wrote on his blog like this as he has a record of all events, and the Department watch his blogs, and have even commented of late that he is stirring up trouble.... he is now living in a slum with no internet access.

Hespera

Can you please re-read my post as you must have read it incorrectly as I did not say anything about me agreeing the bashing of DOCS CSO or anyone.

SORRY I ADDED THIS IN YOUR POST BY MISTAKE! I CLICKED EDIT INSTEAD OF QUOTE.

Again be careful, don't trust anybody and its a pity today that 98% of Lawyers only concerns are $$$$$$ and that's it

PLEASE READ what I said months ago, its not legal advice but its a indication on what to do and not to do.
I don't know about your state and even if the SA police say they can't record you phone conversation without you knowing DON'T TRUST THEM and the PHONES!!!! PS they get away with here in QLD with a loop hole.
Don't you like these Loop holes, The Cops taught me all about Loop holes and in the next 12 months I will use one of their open loop holes against them and before they get a chance to close it the infection will have festered in.

The only thing now to come out of these new laws as has been previously mentioned is that the CSO's will purposely provoke to be hit...they were doing it before these laws came in with their antagonism towards parents.

It's common sense to be treating parents with care and concern as it is a severely fragile and emotional nature but they don't, police say it so many times that the Dchs are either 'snakes in the grass' and/or cold hearted even if they have a heart. Most don't and if they entered with one, it was sure ripped out the minute their paypacket and bonus's were threatened!

I know I've seen it otherwise they just leave working for the dept and get their heart back damaged and scarred for life so imagine parents and their children!

And they will try to keep him off the internet too.
SEE these scumbags if they could get a law passed that makes it a offense to give DOCS a hard time (you notice I didn't say BASH them on the internet as some think you can actually bash a person on the internet, hummm Is it possible because I don't think so) these arses would push it.

I totally agree with you as in our case they pushed my wife to the limit to get rid of me a few times and as she was crying sitting on the lounge my wife till today tells me she was spat on maybe accidently by a DOCS bitch standing over her (The Spit was the bitchs frothing saliva)

Now tell me these JUDGE,JURY and Executioner made their mind up there and then and I wonder what the same bitches would say today or a little later say after my day in court.

All you whingeing men are all the same pitiful and weak. I'm still going to apply for a position in Child Safety where I know I can be a team player but at the moment I am waiting to be professionally coached before applying as I have been told the interview is quite demanding.