ah Rainbowchaser you have explained another very valid point so clearly again.

Yes, I found it was no use complaining until after the case was over and docs out of my life as it would have just been seen (as loving my kids wrote here) as not working with the department! You would be screwed if you make a noise. No wonder you got labelled with 'bi-polar disorder', I am not surprised at all by this.

Oh yes, suffering from Bi-Polar Disorder, contradictory and in denial... That's me!

But that also describes just about every other parent dealing with DoCS as well - particularly being in denial.

Well I'm 'borderline perosonality disorder' apparently - Get that one which I was given a 'may be' diagnosis from their crap sought out Social Assessor but mind you a psychiatrist who observed me for over a week instead of an hour only could see mild recurrent depression inflamed by involvement of DChS due to removal of my child.

Just shows then I'm normal and human with a heart, a nice plump red one that beats and does it's job, their's is black and cold...

Hmm, if we show emotion when we're dealing with DoCS - we have an untreated mental health condition.

If we remain emotionless - we don't care about our children.

It's a catch 22... But I opted for letting fly and firing both barrels at DoCS when applicable.

I figured that it would be easier for me to have a report stating that I was normal than it would have been for me to constantly see in affidavits that I do not care for my children.

Needless to say, I saw my own choice of psychologist for the Psycho-Social assessment DoCS wanted and according to him I'm normal... DoCS didn't like that at all. They "didn't get what they paid for".

Class Action, Thru the district courts is the only way to get DOCS into a court room to be held accountable. But, no layman can do this own their own, them documents Must Be Done Correctly.
In a professional and educated manner before the courts will even consider registering your forms.

I started to do that and got lost in my emotions as they just automatically flow out.
Sometimes I can control, But most times, Like Rainbow stated: I opted for letter fly.

These pricks know they are wrong, They know someone in that department has added and tampered with my files.
In 3 yrs, I went from Pedo, to predictor to terrorist, to whatever they want to say about me.has travelled from townsille to toowoomba to Adelaide and each time it gains more. I am not running away from them, They run from me.

that is the way they handle it docsniper....they ought to be named and shamed......a cmc would only serve to bury another load of cases

CMC is also corrupted.if not that, then they have VERY cold dead hearts

Yep they are docsniper.....the 2004 cmc enquiry and others showed me that one....all in the same bed they are

Yeps, not only the CMC, but also the State ombudsman to the minister of justice to the minister of police and the minister that governs QLD.

All know. I have Yelled at all these scums, from the very lowest to the very highest.
I Yell and scream to the media, Also Cold and dead Hearts.

Thats a lot of people that I have contacted that knows something about it, About Me. About you, About Us.

This I send to them, as this is where I vent out to the World.

http://www.dotblu.com/user/NomadSniper

so have many others docsniper.....its a bit like banging your head against a brick wall isnt it

Ya, it does, and I am shocked that I have Not crossed any lines to kill those that have murdered my family.

One day!! Someone will lose the plot. and I will have NO sorrow what so ever. If a department worker was to die.

doc sniper that is exactly what they are waiting for to happen....thats why they put the ones that have been complained about out in the public view.....but the best weapon is that two edged sword they call the tongue.......

That's a bit harsh don't you think? I wouldn't wish anyone to die. Not all department workers are bad.

Harsh, Ha, Thats Not harsh, what would be harsh, Is me placing a mini chain gun up their butt, and just pull the trigger.

What do you think they did to me???. would that be classed as Harsh?.
What did they, was nothing closer to pure murder. Not once, but three times, three frking times they came into my life and just murdered.

Hell yes. I want them to suffer, I want them to feel the pains of a child dieing in their arms, I want them to feel what it is like to have their partner ripped away from them. I want to feel what it is like to be made SOOOOOOOOOO alone.

Yes what you have been through I'm sure has been 'harsh'. I couldn't imagine what it would be like. But wanting someone to die because of something they have done is over the top. Don't you think that Departmental workers read this site and there may be a chance that they know who you are. And here you are saying that you want them all to die...what do you think that's going to do for your case?

So you want them all to die or just the ones involved in your case? Because if they all die I'm sure that someone would make some money out of it with the coffins that would be needed.

Actually I'm surprised it actually has not happened already.
Nobody wishes anybody to die but if it happens when you're there and its someone you don't like well what can I say.
Two years ago I was one of the many witnesses that witnessed a police car chuck a u turn to catch a speeding motorist only to be wiped out by a car driving up the inside.
what did I do? nothing, actually I did i walked into a shop bought a meat pie and a can of coke and watched proceedings.
Now this was two years ago and if it happened today i would do the same, I don't help anyone anymore period especially anyone under the age of 18.
The only people I respect are Ambulance Paramedics and Nurses and I have a very strong reason for this.

1: and lets talk facts: if a person, just walked into your home, pull a gun out and shot your partner and walked out. What do you do?.
Responses: 1: would want to kill.
2: Police are involved: they catch the person, is questioned and arrested,is found guilty in a court of law, and is sentenced to death. What is the proper human reaction?.

Yes. DOCS may well read what I write. and any human,whether poor or rich, whether any religion, will always want Justice when another human Murders your family. it does not have to be a gun, It was as DOCS did to me, walked in killed and walked out. Of cos! I want Justice for that action. and of cos!, I have the feelings I have,Normal human feelings.

And I agree with this, Yes! there could be a DOCS worker that is doing their Job right. Just like a policeman compared to a Cop/pig. ect.

What and how I speak is the feelings that have been burnt in me,is my automatic defense, to the abuse.
let me give you all a EG:
in 2004, I had my head placed into a cement pillar and then had a steel tubing placed across my back, breaking 3 of my rib, with each hit I was getting,he was calling me a Kid Frker, with each hit, my only response was, NO, I am NOT.
these 3 men that did that, basically got off scott free. and I received Nothing.but Pain.
only this yr,while walking on the street, I was approached by a man and he threatened to kill me if i was to walk down his street again.he had his hand in a gun motion pointing at my head. I reported this and the cops do nothing.

SO, you all Tell me, What Is the Normal Human Reaction??.

LOL

When I first lost my girls in 2006 I had a dream that I actually KILLED the infant of the CSO who took my girls from me.

It was shocking. I killed the child and felt absolutely NO remorse.

But this does not mean that I am going to hunt the guy down and kill his child.

Being happy to see someone dead is not the same as actually going out and doing the deed. A parent can't fight for their child from behind a prison door and that behaviour guarantees the child is removed until they reach their majority.

I don't think any parent dealing with DoCS would feel remorse if a CSO ended up in a coffin... I expect the attitude would be more like "Well, that's one down...".

How many Parents, Father have said....If anyone ever harms my woman or children I will kill.? How many have said that?. hummmm?. how many Men have stated they will do whatever it takes. Like the Movie, John Q.

And when that day comes....we are persecuted for protection the family, Our children. and defending what is ours. Its called Human Behavior. Normal human behavior.

Well said, agree with you totally there, We want them to suffer the way they have made us suffer.

Then does that make you no better than they are? Then does that not make you what they are trying to portray you to be?

Yes, that is exactly right and I reckon that's what my dream was saying.

Child for a child.

Except I lost 3 but only "killed" one.

We most definitely want them to suffer - but at the end of the day the average parent involved with DoCS is not going to do something that completely ruins their chances of getting their child back.

Regardless of how tempting it may be.

Heck, I imagined slashing tyres, dumping paint on cars, following CSOs home and lots of other fun activities.

But I never made a move.

A parent is only no better and exactly what DoCS portray them to be when they go through with their thoughts.

Yes and no. It can be potraying ones self as Child Safety sees them if they make threats to CSO's, voice their anger/hate/thoughts of killing/hurting CSO's and possibly even voicing it on the internet. It's all about how the person who is on the other end of these comments feels. If they feel intimidated then it could be construed as making threats etc.

Never has a truer word been spoken.

EVERYTHING is all about how the other person FEELS.

Personal opinion is not meant to play a part in cases - but it most certainly does!!!

If a parent ticks off their CSO enough, they will suddenly find themselves having contact visits cut or removed all together and if the CSO absolutely detests them, they will find a way to gain custody of the child until he/she reaches their majority.

Hi,
Justice4All don't wind sniper up.
I understand where you are coming from, but please realise this man is going through a grief process. And part of that is anger, venting his frustration.

As humans we have 2 primary drives - sexual and aggression. It is only normal that in a forum like this one that it should be deemed as safe to vent your fantasies about getting back at docs and that these parents can do so safely wihtout the reprisal of docs spying on what he reads and even possibly affecting his treatment from them due to this.
NOT GOOD ENOUGH.
Anyway maybe docs shouldn't worry about the ones on here that are loud mouthed and venting aggressive fantasies towards them. As the saying goes - you should be worried about the ones that are quiet.
Quiet, watching and waiting for the right moment.

And anyway it is about the unjust behaviours from these docs workers and not necessarily aimed at one person. AND these unjust docs workers are supposed to be in a position of trust from the community not to rip the carpet from underneath the family through confabulating lies.
Docs that aren't following the mission statement, that aren't following the duty of care and are using their power to corrupt.

Fantasies of revenge are normal.

I would rather put my energy into doing whatever I can to facilitate the beginning of change and to educate the community.

Definately not trying to wind anyone up. If anything I'm trying to get people to realise that just because you put it in here doesn't mean it might not then become an issue in your fight against Child Safety. I would hate for anyone to have more issues thrown up at them.

And yes Sniper and others here are going through some form of grief.

But I will always put the other side of the argument forth...unless of course there is an issue with it.

Rainbow:
yeps. 100% true.
I have asked myself, Who in that department have I ticked off, for them to tamper with my files and add events in places I know and can prove I was no where near or in.
Who, then has been covering all that up and how far has it traveled ?.
Personal opinions added to enhance the Pedo Status.
From T'ville to Toowoomba, to SA,
That is a lot of people who has lied and deceived, that is a lot of workers that will be investigated.
That is Corruption at it best, In QLD Townsville all the way to Head office in Brisbane.

JusticeForAll:

Words has brought down kingdoms, and words can destroyed life.
Words is all DOCS have and use against me, With only words this department can have a judge sign a piece of paper, for them to come,with words and remove you from your home and family.
Yes! I vent, I yell, And I scream as hard as I can, I say words that I know will hurt, That will make anybody think.
Yes, I dream of 1 million ways I would love to hurt them.
To watch their faces as I do to them as They have done to me, to watch life drain out of them, as my life has been sucked dry.
And Yes, I know, if i was to break the law really as killing/murdering, I know where I will end up. As much as I like the idea of a prison, I am not going there for nothing and as far as I am concern, them DOGS are a nothing, they are beneath me.
No matter what I write, or what I say, it is the attitude forced upon me by the department of child safety and NO jury. will ever,ever hold that against me. Normal human reaction...not a depression reaction.

Hey Give DocSniper credit, you havent seen what they have done, he has every right to be angry and says what he says. He vents out on here as he is hurt and angry from what the department has done to him for many years. I am at the brunt of it all, and yes its not a pretty sight. But all in all this man does have a good heart, its just hidden behind the sadness, anger and frustration.

Threats, arrests, terrorism, you name it they have tried everything. No person should be put through that sort of injustice. At the end of the day, when they are held accountable, He / We will walk with our heads high.

WJ: its not the forums troopers fault. They have never meet me, nor read the documents as you have, They have not been beside me when I am rejected and refused any form of help as you have.

They have not seen what I do 24/7 as you have.

If only DOCS had the same attitude of listening and investigating, None of this will be happening.

If anybody is going to play God, Then Play as God would do, Fair and Just, With love and compassion.
Protect the children at any cost. even if that means I have to Die.

I think the point of my post was missed...I didn't say that people couldn't be angry, I didn't say that people couldn't vent. The point was not to vindicate anyone or to make them feel that they had no right to feel any way or that they were not normal by feeling these things.

My post has two purposes: Firstly to have people think about whether their anger was jusitifed (and it obviously is) and if they were directing it in the correct way. And secondly to think about the repercussions of posting these toughts/anger etc on such a public media when we all know that Child Safety is watching.

As I stated before, I would hate for any of our members to make further problems for themselves with Child Safety. We all know what they are capable of, with creating lies and trumping up cases against us. All they need is ammunition, and it can sometimes be that the smaller it is the better for them.

Sniper I apologise if my post upset you in anyway, and if it upset anyone else for that matter.

I am not against any of you, I am WITH you.

like I say justice.....you are a spark of light in a very black hole, and I admire you.....there is nothing more damaging to the human spirit than not being heard, and dealing with a one way supposed democratic system which serves to ruin people's lives....both children and families.
history dictates that the human being can endure only so much.....everybody has a snapping point, much to the glee of any governing body.
one could very easily look upon the history of any governing body throughout the world to know they are all the same.....and how many years have the Aboriginal people been enduring their crap.....in other places they have wiped out races....and british rulers are very responsible for that.
Now that society has been educated and given supposed rights...those that stand up for what they believe is wrong are castigated in the most heinous way...and that continues right up the line of rulers.
wE live in a society of apathetic people who have no interest in their fellow man......that is the saddest thing.....

Hi,

thanks Justice4All for the words you write. I took your comment back a few pages in the wrong light.

Justice: all good.

I am at the point where I am beginning to see this forum going nowhere, Sure, we Shout out and we write up our stories, But, its not landing on or in the right ear/heart for any action to take place.

The buck passing and pre judging is all i am obtaining.
I am sick of losing my woman and I am sick of losing the love from that woman. and Im way piss'd off for losing my children.
I sit here in my 4 wall self made prison, Im not looking for pity. Im looking, and hoping to find my life that was robbed.
Im not getting any younger, and to rebuild a family will be twice as hard.

One woman, and a family is all I desire.

Hi,
I think this forum is creating the beginnings of change.

Initially we were out there thinking it was just us alone.
Well, now we know we are not alone.
We are gathering together.
things take time - this sort of stuff cannot be done impulsively. It takes planning, action, assessing the results etc.

Also we can recognise we have the same goal.
It's growing nicely at present.
I've only been on here since around late September, that is not even 2 months and the changes in interest in this site is exploding.

And public meetings take a lot of organisation, the invites sent out to all those stake holders who deal with docs, the invites to reach the general public,and the invites to the various government officials.Of course a huge mail out before to invite all these parties and also invite law firms, solicitors. Media notified and invited. organising the agenda for such a meeting, the guest speakers, the ushers at the door, the tea and coffee and refreshments, the money to pay for this. The literature and photocopying for people to take with them. The making and video taping of this event. and not to mention the need for security. It's a doable but big task. A lot of people would be involved to pull something like this off. You wouldn't want to do something in a sloppy half measure. And we don't need to look like a bunch of crap pots that scare people before they ever think of arriving.What sort of image do we want to present - it needs to look professional. But this sort of thing will happen one day in the future.

And prior to a public meeting there needs to be the formalisation of a group. A name and registering this organisation/ lobby group what ever it is.

It is all big task stuff - looking for justice reform and justice managed.

There is so much to do before ever getting to the stage of finding a venue to host a public meeting.