have contacted all the channels doc sniper.....it would seem that people is who we need to gather

I still think that you need to get your numbers up.
You must try to work out how to contacts the thousands in Queensland that have had any sort of contact with DoCS for a opinion how they were treated for their investigation

same here.
Just think what can be done to find all the lost souls and head them this way.

oh Ive im preparing the flyers....and have contacted people on the sunshine coast......they start going out next week.....and we're going to pound the pavements with them.......hell hath no fury than a woman scorned.....

Yep, ready to pound the pavements. I mean the junk mail reaches the masses and they are still doing this aren't they - who gets junk mail continuosly?
So flyers are do-able, print them out (probably 1/2 page A4) and off we go.
Just think of the exercise!!

So let's get a uniform approach by most to work on the flyer layout to do this. Then if we feel strong enough about this issue it is up to each one of us to do this.
I am glad I live in south east qld where the most numbers are.
ha ha ha say hello to me if you see me going past your letter box. And I'll still shove one into the "No junk mail/ Australia Post only" letter boxes!!

So come on PM me or one of us here with you proposed flyer and then when one is ok'ed by most of us this is what we can use.

this forum is our tool. It has encompased a lot of useful information to the average Joe facing docs and also to start to heighten the awareness of those (who care to look) who are curious and uninformed.

This is where my money from Rudd is going - as I said before Anti docs propaganda.

Can we count you in?

Then maybe by contacting some through this letter box delivery later we could start something like a 'fax back/ email survey' type thing.

We need to start to spread the word and then find more people who are willing and believe strong enough about the cause to get involved in this work.

It ain't no high profile job this, it is just a lot of sweat and tears to start with.

And...
If you have any other ideas, then speak them out. Don't be shy. Write here or PM one of us regulars here and share your thoughts.

Remember our ultimate goals
and this must be do-able,
in a cost effective manner,
in a time frame,
etc.

This sort of stuff would be measurable by recording the daily hits/ views onto this site.

500 have looked at this poat today alone...word is spreading......over 3ooo for this week not bad eh

yep

Just clicked over 70,000 this morning.

Thats great numbers.
I think that we could do with one of these forums for each state as well as an australia wide one!!

over 70,200 now so that's just over 200 more views in the last few hours

70,300.
another 100 in 45 minutes.

I can see 100,000 just for this thread in the next 6 months or less.
Remember some of the other threads are going gang busters too.

I can see that 100,000 by next week Tuesday

what do you know that we don't?

Hi,

did anyone see the article in the Courier Mail (page 37 of 8-9 November)?

It says 'Child Safety workers flee"

well anyone with half a brain would flee once they realised what was involved with working for the department.

I've said before it wouldn't be a good look to have it on your CV that you once worked as a CSO for the Department of child Safety.

Apparently 852 full time workers quit their jobs in 2007 - 2008 period of time. This compares to 536 for the previous year. It is a significant rise in numbers.

I would hazzard a quess at saying it is the ethical people who are leaving in droves.The unethical ones would probably like the power and stay on. And in one of the very corrupt office I know of I am fully aware of some very corrupt officers who have been there for a number of years.

See it isn't just toxic problems in which the department handles itself there is also toxic problems in the way it manages staff.

We need some ex CSO's to confirm this on here.

thisisgood:

my life is been on the line for many years.
This is my life, that someone has manipulated. has twist my destiny to the nightmare it is.
MY life, is my life, I know all in me I am innocent.
I dont need some quack or assessments to learn how to be a father, i AM a FATHER.
I know my sexuality: and the women in my life Also know my sexuality.
My life is in question,brought on by some frkhead and decides to play god with me. MY life is worse more to me, then it is to them. MY life,MY childrens lives means something to me.

My life is worse nothing to them, but, once upon a time, I was someone to somebody and that is all that mattered.
My life I am fighting for,
I yell everywhere and if I can find away to yell in otter space, I do that to.

Yeh I'd like to know more too, nice and juicy...poor woman and kids...what a fright that would've been for them...but it does happen.

Where I'm at, the police are very suspicious in taking the Dept's word for issues unless they actually have orders in their hands before they do anything, but they're easy to get for the Dept...they only have to prove it after the fact but by then the damage is already done!

Just clicked over 70,500 not long ago.

Its called hit and run!!

Destroy someone family and they FUCK OFF!

Well I was told only last week that the three whores from hell are still at my Office of DOOM!

Could this be a reason why Pine Rivers, Mermaid Beach, and others that rated poorly in the poll are the offices with the long time hard liners?

in 10 minutes its gone up another 97.
Its now 70,597

The other two climbing by the hour are.

1/ The Department of Child Safety's most shameful office.

2/When DOCS interview children

Its good that people are reading these two as if I can help one family in Queensland outsmart DOCS I will be happy.

Can't find it, What section of the Courier main was it in.

Had a thought, I was talking to my girlfriend today, who is a foster carer, I was asking her if they take my daughter away from me on Thursday, would she consider looking after her until this is all sorted, and of course she said yes. Made me feel better, but she told me there was such a shortage of foster carer's out there, the department are accommodating the children they remove in hotels, for up to a year!!!!!!

How unreal is that, but the crunch of my thought was

SHOULD I APPLY AS A FOSTER CARER.....Do you think they would accept my application??????

You wait wont be long, you have to apply for a L and P plate license to be a parent.
a written test and then a test drive.
depends on what type of family, you obtain. different classes of license to maintain a family.

China got the policy of one child per couple.


didnt I hear some where and I could be mistaking, that Australia is the lucky country. the " fair go mate",.

Why is it, that other people from other countries want to escape to this one, cos, of their persecution, yet, we are being persecuted by our government....where can we escape to????

I would like to see that!.
This thread alone has clocked up another 1000 in one day, don't forget the others the mileage is going up on them too.

No you wouldn't become a foster carer. With the alegations that you are facing (for QLD anyway) that would be enough to reject your application.

Hate:
I reckon: I havnt finished yet. I still got 24 hrs:)

I haven't started yet, still waiting for my Committal soon

And don't expect any miracles with the committal because anyone charged with a 93a automatically does not collect 200 Dollars (Monopoly) and goes straight to trial
In simple what I am trying to say is its just about impossible to be charged with any offense attached to a 93a and expect to get off at a Committal.
trust me I have done research on this.
The Parrot behind the bench always says YOU HAVE BEEN COMMITTED TO STAND TRIAL!. You Lawyer if honest should tell you this.
If you do a search on what a committal is for you will find it gives the defense team opportunity to test the evidence against (PS the CROWN Show its cards but you don't show yours) you like mine it was nothing except for a 93a bit of toilet paper and nothing else but you still are forced to stand trial.
Some say if you show evidence at the committal it can go against you at trial reason by making the crown aware to what you have as evidence also lawyers like lengthy trials $$$$ they always go the full length.

oh i think they use any bloody number and form.....what id like to know ...who charges docs and the psychs for their abuse???????
and what about the cocky young teacher....not even a parent himself, that has a hand in abducting children .....being brother of the abusive father ...and the false testimony in the court...really trumped up boy....and youre in a christian school up north there....do your pupil's parents know what a cad you really are.....

Hi,

Yes, I looked into becoming a foster parent after my case was over. I am lead to believe that they will look into if there ever was allegations of child abuse on you.

I am sure I said before it is only around 10 hours of assessement to become a foster carer.

A girlfriend of mine is aiming to work for docs in NSW and is currently studying.

Hi,
Ihategov did you find that article about docs workers leaving the department in droves? It was in saturdays Courier mail. Page whatever I said now.

Also have you seen the courier mail. front page Monday 7 July 2008. "Abuse cases choke courts"?

sometimes I collect these articles. I am still looking for the article about more kids attempt suicide who have been in care compared to the rest of the poplulation. I am sure I have this somewhere.

No I did not



Yes I spotted this one as this is the example of the 93a statement at work.
No evidence but lets fill the courts will trials fully based on a 93a.
Like i said if the three Bronco Players complainant was under 16 and the 93a was flashed at her (always used) I CAN STAKE MY LIFE IN IT THAT THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN CHARGED, gone to a useless Committal, and waiting 5 years for their trial.

YES I KNOW ITS IN THE WRONG THREAD! But why not.

Guys and Gals, since our great Premier is on the money grab trail again and she is short a bit of cash by giving it all to the Department of Child Safety, by increasing fines for everything including of course traffic fines, I would like to remind all what is written below and what I have been reading on other sites, where more and more people are now warning motorists with these speed cameras. See, if you flash your head lights, they grab you for that, by using your high beams in a built up area, but if you just turn your head lights on and off and on and off, is that breaking the law? Well not the law of using your high beams in a built up area, but unfortunately this gangster of a Premier that we have has her own law, which is worse than any other law we have in this state and you know what thats called:

DENYING THE GOVERNMENT REVENUE.

(JUST A REMINDER TO WHAT HAPPENED A WHILE A GO)


Well watching Channel Nine News last night (15/10//07)I just caught a segment about Queensland police getting caught in their own speed cameras. It was interesting once again thanks to the freedom of information ACT and a good reporter that reported this but I would like to add my two bobs worth.
See what attracted my attention to this story was the high percentage of police whilst on or possibly off duty that were booked for speeding but it was the case of an outrageous percentage of them that write a letter to the department with a reason why they were speeding and they get off. Now as I said I just caught this story by a second so I don't exactly remember the percentage that get off but it was high and I can tell you this that the average Tom Dick and Harry that has been caught speeding has got BUCKLEY'S chance of getting off as easy as the off or on duty Police do so how do they do it? Haaaaaa easy!!

No I'm not saying where I got this info from but some of us unfortunately have relatives or friend in the Police service and yes they do enjoy a drink at a BBQ and yes the drink has a habit of loosening a few tongues and this is what I over heard at a Bathurst 1000 party that got my ears ringing.
See what is getting around the traps in the Police service is just say an off or on duty Police officer is driving his or her private or Police car on a public road and in a split second they unfortunately get zapped by a speed camera for speeding and they know that they have been busted what they do is accelerate and pull over the first car that just happen to be in front of them.
Now they will pull the car over for any reason like Sir/Madam why were you drifting in your lane, or your brake light are coming on and off or whatever stupid or silly reason they can use to pull the car in front of them over so they can get details, times and whatever needed so the off or on duty cop can write his or her letter saying this was the reason why he or she was speeding.
I find this what I heard absolutely disgusting and outrageous that we have a law for the common person and we have a loophole for the Police.
What I would like for the General public to do is if you pass a speed camera and you are not speeding whatsoever and for some reason just after or kms later down the road you get pulled over for whatever reason by anyone on or off duty and they just happens to flash a badge at you and ask for your details which you give him or her ask for his or her name and service number (They could refuse or ask why?), also get details, time, "etc" of the car they are driving and number plate and report them to the CMC (Crimes Misconduct Commission)You never know you could be lucky, See if the CMC investigate and it just happens the Police officer gives them the same excuse (I bet the excuses would be similiar)as they put in their letter to get off the fine the CMC will know that the Police Officer in question is on the nose, and after this message on this forum gets around they might think twice before pulling this swifty again.
Remember all, the way I look at it the Police are not above the law and they should be treated equally like the rest of us.
Now let me see where is the phone number for the CMC.

Can someone please tell me what the difference between a magistrate making a decision and a judge.
I have the court hearing tomorrow, and I have been told it is a magistrate that will make the decision to whether my daughter will be taken into Custody.

My lawyer is asking for a 7 day adjournment on the matter, I feel that she should be able to argue the case tomorrow instead of the adjournment, but she says because it is an application for investigation and removal of my daughter for the 42 days, she cant argue the case until after the 42 days.

Does this sound right???

No don't rush it!
If you're not 100% prepared adjourned the case even if its only for 7 days,
Did she tell you why she cant argue the case for 42 days.?.
I'm not familiar with this, i am getting good on Criminal matters not family matters.

Magistrate is for Local courts

Maybe JusticeForAll can add something to this