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#41412 Mon 03 Nov 2008 09:42:PM
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Today I received by email.

I refer to your email of 7 August 2008 to the Honourable Anna Bligh MP, Premier of Queensland, concerning your involvement with the Department of Child Safety.

I also refer to your email of 25 April 2008 to the Honourable Brendan Nelson MP, the then Leader of the Federal Opposition, in which you raised similar concerns.

As the issues raised in both pieces of correspondence fall within the portfolio responsibilities of the Honourable Margaret Keech MP, Minister for Child Safety and Minister for Women, your emails were forwarded to this office for direct reply.

Minister Keech has noted your concerns and requested I reply to your correspondence on her behalf.

Following the receipt of your correspondence, information was requested from the relevant departmental officers in response to your issues and copies of your emails were also forwarded to those officers for consideration and advice.

In relation to your concern about a substantiated outcome for sexual harm in 2002 while you were incarcerated, please note that child protection concerns are investigated and assessed irrespective of the timeframes surrounding the actual harm, as is the case in the circumstances you outlined.

While I acknowledge your issues regarding the involvement of the Department of Child Safety in your family life, I trust you can appreciate that in line with their obligations under the Child Safety Act 1999, departmental officers seek advice and assurance from a range of professional sources in order to ensure the safety and wellbeing of children who come to the attention of the Department. These officers must be satisfied that those children are not at risk of harm and those who care for them are able to provide for their physical, social and emotional needs.

Further, the Department bases assessment decisions on actual harm, or risk of harm, rather than relying on evidence-based proof when recording a substantiated outcome. As such, the Department and the police service have differing statutory obligations and responsibilities in relation to child protection. The Department is responsible for the safety and care of children, while the role of the police is to investigate alleged criminal offences, while also ensuring the wellbeing of children.


I trust this information is of assistance. However, if you remain dissatisfied with this response, I suggest you contact your local child safety service centre for a complaints officer in your child safety zonal office or the Department’s Complaints, Case Review and Investigation Branch, listed below.

Complaints, Case Review and Investigation Branch:
Postal address:
GPO Box 806
Brisbane QLD 4000
Freecall: 1800 080 464
Email: Complaints, Case Review and Investigation Branch – complaints@childsafety.qld.gov.au

If you lodge a complaint with that Branch, but are not satisfied with the outcome of that process, you can contact one of the following external agencies:

Children Services Tribunal:
Telephone: (07) 3225 8346
Local call: 1300 855 345
Website:
Queensland Government: Department of Justice and Attorney-General – www.justice.qld.gov.au/cst

Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian:
Telephone: (07) 3247 5525
Freecall: 1800 688 275
Website:
Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian – www.ccypcg.qld.gov.au

Queensland Ombudsman:
Telephone: (07) 3005 7000
Freecall: 1800 068 908 (Queensland only)
Website:
Queensland Government: Queensland Ombudsman – www.ombudsman.qld.gov.au

Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC):
Telephone: (07) 3360 6060
Freecall: 1800 061 611
Website:
Queensland Government: Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC) – www.cmc.qld.gov.au

Should you wish to discuss these matters further or provide additional information, please contact Ms Chay Hicks, Acting Team Leader, Toowoomba North Child Safety Service Centre on 4616 1800.

Yours sincerely

David Smith
Senior Policy Advisor
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My response.

Dear to whom it may concern

Please find attached my response.

In all, your department has done nothing to rectify this issue,but only to buck pass me from one end of the scale to the other end.
The places you have referred me to, are just like your department, you don't want to hear nor help in a professional manner.
Yes!!, My past life is not colorful, But, the adding of files to me to enhance this pedo status is Corruption and abuse of the said law.
Yet, The department of child safety criminal history goes back 200 yrs, The Forde Inquiry has already pointed that out.
Didn't Mr Rudd Quoted in saying."No one is above the law?." didn't he also Quote, Sorry to the stolen generation, this will never happen again..?. yet, the department of child safety has broken the law, and have stolen children.
Again, I state, I have never been Questioned by any law concerning these False claims by your department.
I am not on any sexual registers, I have never been charged with any type of pedophilia
Your department refuses to talk with my eldest son(aged 22) hes, the one your department says I molested and abused, since he was a boy. why then has he been refused and rejected when he makes the attempts to be interviewed?, with your dept and police...why is he turned away.?.

Your department then States that I have Child porno on my computer when they DOCS and police came to my home and raided it in 2003.
1: I have witnesses and proof of where I was and how i was living.
2: We both know, that if anyone has any type of child porno, on their computer. They are interviewed/Charged/Court and then prison. Why?, then was I not interviewed and Charged.
3: According to the Department, They State that I have been molesting children since 1977, Why then was I not questioned at the age of 16?.
4: In 1986 my son is born, Where was your department to rip away my son and to remove the said partner?.
5: In 1997, my other son was born and dies 7 weeks later. where was your department then??.maybe my son would still be alive if your department interfered as you do now by Branding me..

You then want me to correspond with Ms Chay Hicks. when I know already I have been pre judged and found GUILTY. just as you have found me.
With only the written words that only you and your department has of me,No Facts, Just words. have abused the law.
If I am to be in the same boat as Dennis Ferguson, Why then Have I not received the same ?.
Instead I get my ribs broken,my head placed into a cement pillar, I get strangers coming to my home to supply me with Death Threats,I cant even walk to the local shop or I get strangers stating they are going to kill me. the police do nothing when reported, You do nothing only to back the corruption within your department and to buck pass me.

I know I have done nothing wrong to warrant this abuse to myself, to the partners I once had and also to my children. I was abused by your system as a child, I am being abused by your system now and Now! your dept are abusing my children.

We live in the 21st century,where technology can be used to extract the truth. This is what I desire The truth, The justice.
A crime has been committed, and it wasn't by me.

May I also direct you to this URL http://www.aus-city.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=12&page=1
here you find other abused souls, also venting out the abuse from your department.
10,000 abused people cant be all wrong with the attitude and conduct of a abusing department of child safety.

The family I have now, Is being ripped apart. even when The said children are QUOTING no abuse of any type is happening, yet DOCS are twisting their words.
These children know full well of my past and the branding from your department. these children stand up and speak the truth, Yet, your department refuses to listen to them and only twist what they Really say.
The Mother also stands with me, and due to this, she is abused by docs, she is Told, she is a unfit mother, she is told she is stupid, she is told she cannot have a man live in the same house as her with the children until her youngest turns 18.
NO 93a was never used, But, you use family act 10a to steal my children and to remove the said partner, Words, Just words, that you have written down of me, that you all use to pre judge me and crucify me with.

If you really did investigate this issue. you would be questioning myself, my eldest son, the people that are the witnesses to my life. even the X partners. you could be questioning, the Said partner and her children.

Is my life that important to your department to murder it without truly investigating the TRUTH.

With regards

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By the sounds of it, My life has been set out for me by the Local frkheads called Qld government. They let me breathe,but that's all i get, I get no freedom to be a human being. to be a man, to be a father, to have love.

This is Australia, The unlucky and not fair country. we have no justice avail unless your a bank manager.

Who the HELL voted these retards in the 1st place, the labour and libs are not the Answer, A independent Commissioner is required to oversee the Claims from abused families.


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I got a blanket statement letter from blighs office too.....am still waiting for keach's contact....ooooooooo too hot to handle....and that woman is also minister for woment....what a crock of shit they spill....all of them

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Very well said DocSniper.
See the lot of us are just collateral damage and they don't give a shit about us.
That just hope we dry up like dog shit and blow away
but I never will and I don't care how trivial it is I will pursue the Department of Child safety for the rest of my fucking life..

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Originally Posted by kickemout
..and that woman is also minister for woment....what a crock of shit they spill....all of them


Why haven't we got a minister for Men?

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now that is an interesting question.....

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How interesting.

Doc, you have your foot in the door... Now you need to push the door open further... That person who replied to your email is the person you need to bug... He's a plebe but you have to begin somewhere.

A minister for men? I have no idea why we don't have one... What do we need a minister for women for anyway?

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but not the minister for child safety in that role.....I think their mentality just goes from bad to worse each year/election.....the real trouble is that the office idiots do not pass on information and therefore they have little knowledge of what is going on.....i found that in many gov depts in my quest....arrogant pen pushers on an easy wicket

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I have been to all those addies and more....it is just the same blanket station...go here , go there......i guess only gov cock heads are the ones who like to see people suffer....their aim is for their own cover stories they get the media to put in their verbal diarrhoea out to the public to cover their butts.
Starving in the congo....what about the aged here in aus that are starving and the inhumanity committed by the governance of this country.....best to clean up yer own back yard before voicing the atrocities in other places.

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Originally Posted by kickemout
the real trouble is that the office idiots do not pass on information


And that about sums it up. I'm not even going to write to anybody
as I know it will get me nowhere the lot of us are going to have to wait until a smart Lawyer opens up Pandora's Box and whenever that happens let the lot of us will jump on the band wagon.

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Wow, I could just imagine the Pandora's Box too.

And all the governmental areas going into damage control...

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Hi,

Yes Mr Sniper as you put it - 'if docs really investigate the issue' then it would point to the 'truth'.

And I note David Smith's reply about 'the departemental officers seek advice and assurance from a range of professional sources in roder to ensure the safety and wellbing of children...'

well I think Mr Smith does not know what is really going on in that child safety department. We all have stories that prove about this issue of truth and investigation methods.

We have already spoken about docs chosen 'professionals' not writing the same as independent professionals. I have personal proof of this myself.

It is just shameful that this department is operating like this in 2008.
It is not good enough.
I have yet to see someone get an apology from this department.

And incidentally my independent review of my case is still out there (?still on the zonal director's desk?). I'll let you know when I get an answer.

So if what David Smith wrote is true then come on docs come and take my child off me again - nothing has changed in my life, so child must still be at risk.

I've said it before and here it is again -
There is nothing safe about the Department of Child Safety.

Thank you Mr Sniper for sharing this with us all and posting it here for the world to see.

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We know how DoCS run their business... We live it every day... We know EXACTLY how it's done.

The problem is that all the ministers and the rest of them on their high horses are lead to believe that DoCS are doing it PROPERLY.

Which they are NOT.

So the ministers and their fogies turn a blind eye and prefer not to listen because they believe DoCS is doing a FINE job.

Lead to believe that processes are carried out accurately, investigations are done thoroughly and so forth.

They won't listen to the truth until it slaps them hard in the face with irrefutable documentation that can not be questioned.

And to do this, it has to be done en mass - it will hold no water done done one parent as a time.

Those single parents will just get fobbed off.


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I know. as there is a Christ, I know. my rejection and buck passing is to do with compensation for the 3 partners they Removed, for the 3 children they stole, for all the emotional and demoralization/Slander. If The X partners had half a brain, they to should be asking for compensation for what the government did to them. maybe in about 20 yrs, my children will sue the arse off them. a long shot...
Then you have media, here is another bunch of penis smokers who would rather report on a cat stuck up a tree,meanwhile, up against the tree is a human abused. media will trample all over that human to get to the cat.

After world war II..we have war crimes..even after 50 odd yrs, they are still hunting war criminals and bring them to justice.

2008 war crimes in australia Nazi government.Docs murders children and families.Human right in this country is only for the nazis of government.
Now lets put the Australian war(DOCS) criminals in a court room for the Human crimes they have committed.

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Agree, if we all submitted at the one time,say to the federal courts of Australia a civil order to have ALL DOCS accountable that would and should rock their foundations to the Max.
I have people as far as The UK, willing to help.
As far as Canada and the USA. Im told from People in the USA, Lawyers will break your legs to help you take the government to a court room. Here, in OZland, lawyers are so gutless or they just want your kidney as a asset to represent you, even then the lawyers will milk you for all you got and drag it out as much as possible.

Again, I know all my rejections comes from me screaming out Compensation.
And I know this will be in the millions, not $20,000 and a hardy handshake. Millions.
Thats Motive enough to Add files to me, to demoralize me, to steal my children to Murder love. to walk all over me. DOCS have a motive to conceal the truth, for if I ever did win, It would be world wide news. and it will show the world how Corrupted this government really is.

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Hi,

Something would be done if some high up official had one of their children/ grandchildren taken through docs.
And before docs could get wind that this child was related to so and so docs could spin some of their 'magic' on this family and hey presto I bet some changes and arses would get kicked mighty fast.

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well, hey, if its good enough for anybody to ring the Nazis HQ, then how easy would it be to make a PH call and say that So and So is tampering with children.......????.

fight fire with a better fire:)

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Docsniper...I would name every psych, and dept who supported docs in this frame up on your life....every one of them....they took from you , why not toss it back at them....lets face it.....what have you to lose from it..

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Absolutely, I would make a lovely long list... And write beside each name what profession they are - or what they proclaim to be... Including whether they hold a degree or diploma.


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yep Docsniper....they have taken everything off you.....so give it back....they really believe they are immune... show them they are not.

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you never know , it may be your case that really gets the ball rolling

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What good would that do, no one wants to listen, too many closed doors, it all falls back to us all if we all submitted at the one time, to the courts of Australia a civil order to have ALL DOCS accountable for what they have done to the families, especially if we all rallied together and the media was involved. Someone would have to listen then.


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Yes.

The voice of many at one time is better than the voice of one many times.

Hmm, has a ring to it.

I claim that quote!! LOL

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My case, gee! Nobody in power wants to even touch it. QLD pm, is just using that 10% of a brain she think she has.Kinda the same as DOCS.
If it wasnt for the lack of funds, and support. I have them #@#$@#$@#$@ in a court room by now.

and yes, They have taking everything off me.
I have half a home, I have no family.ZIT.
Even my eldest son, wants nothing to do with me nor even help.
If it wasnt for WantJustice. I would have crossed a line and end up in prison. not a bad idea to, Prison, No bills what so ever, free food, free bed.and DOCS can make up any concerns they want and still say I frk children even when I am behind bars. and they still pay for me being in there. so ya, guess I can take the bullet for the team.
Just add this to my tomb stone.....NO, I am Not....Just that. nothing else.

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DocSniper

You have made your point very well by emailing all because the objectivity of this is that the Government now either sitting or in opposition can not deny whats been going on with the Department of child safety.
Please remember the biggest tool that any government or government department ever uses today is by saying we were never told.

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It is the buck passing that goes on up line in gov depts and their agencies that are causing all this ...they are as accountable as the docs morons

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Well troopers.. Xmas soon, Mines gonna be Oh! so Shitful.
Wouldnt it be nice, If WE/Us,could all form a meeting to rally at QLD parliament house?.

Who here could/would organize that????

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Hi,
Yes, the time is coming. We need to gather more people out there to strengthen our numbers.

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Yes, that is very true.

Gathering more people is the first place to start.


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