Be careful because these dogs will try to cancel your appointment if they know you're going to turn up with a solicitor.
Do not tell them! just arrive and bring you solicitor with you and if your solicitor is busy cancel the appointment

Thanks for that I hate Gov, i would have gone ahead being a smart ass, advising them first, If i dont tell them, i wish i could take a picture of her face when she sees my lawyer there, but cant she herself stop the appointment once she sees the lawyer present?

ilovemykids

You win the award for posting the most amount of post in the shortest time.

Yes that's why you don't tell them.

How interesting - which office does this happen at? Or is it occurring throughout other offices too?

In my dealings with Labrador and Mermaid Beach offices they have no opinion of solicitors attending meetings. Not one they voice or use to cancel meetings anyway.

I know that certain magistrates at the Southport court house will grant DoCS orders if the parent does not have legal representation... But that's the only negative thing I know about in regard to not having a legal rep present.

WantJustice.
We both know we have them on the run, we both know we have the win, and we both know, that this will help us. to win elsewhere.

Well that's wrong

Well she did until she was gagged

This has travelled from Qld, down to South Australia

Are you serious?

I wonder if it's a standard rule or if this rule only applies to certain parents... Or certain legal reps for that matter.

How was she gagged???

Absolutely - but it's true.

Yes, it has started in Townsville and Family SA has open the back door.
No crime did I commit in the state of SA. in the 10 months of a building of a relationship, Not one iota of any type of abuse to the partner or the children, Family SA in less then 20 minutes, Abuses the Whole family, Police man handles me in front of the children, Family SA and Cops belittles the mother as saying she is stupid and is a unfit mother, right in front of the children, The said Child in question, Tells these Retards that I am not abusing her in any manner, yet, I am only charged with trespassing when the partner didnt wanted me to go. Stand over tactics and brainwashing Family SA does, Just the same as QLD Dogs do.
I have voiced out to all I believe should help only to be rejected.
They are passing the buck and stalling, while I and the partner waste money where money never ever needed to be wasted. The family home is not happy.
Family SA is only reading what QLD has sent them and told them what to do.
I told Family SA, Dont make the same mistakes as QLD has, Meet me half way to fix the mess your department has done. so far,no half way of any type. only believing in what they read from their own, and refusing to read the proof I have to contradict everything the say.
I have do all i can to show i am innocent while they do nothing to show my guilt.

Now that I have a lawyer here that believes, not like in QLD, my own home town is fingered and when I do prove I am right, I will also prove the corruption with in the townsville department of family killers.
I told them Scums, there will be a day, of justice, a day of the truth, A day of glory. and the longer you take the more I will get.

I do believe with all my heart. that day is not to far away.

Am praying for that day to come. Not only have they done the above they have confused, upset the children, as stated before. As long as we all are strong and dont give up (which is what they want) We will continue to fight and Stand up for the truth.

They are too good at wearing a parent down.

While they attack with their allegations, assumptions and trumped up rubbish they wait for the parent to cave in.

They are also not beyond putting a subject child into a dreadful situation to pull the carpet from under the parent and get their way.

Not to mention that foster carers are a bunch of gossipers who come to their own conclusions and natter amongst themselves, allowing children to overhear negative information about their own parents.

Rainbow:
Wait, wont be long now...at lest till mid November,before we really know,how this will end up. all Im going to say. I will win here. from here the door is open

The seed is already planted.

My solicitor told me to write a book. I'm not a book writer. If I was to do that, it would take me years and I won't feel like I'm contributing.

She also said to take it to the media - but they hear these complaints all the time and one voice is not enough in a situation like this.

The media needs to hear a lot of voices all at once.

thats what i have been saying, One voice no one hears, a multi group of voices will be heard

I emailed her for the reason She replied and i will not put that reason on a public forums but you can guess what happens when you are recognized by them.
End of story but this can be expected if a persons case is only new.

They didn't wear me down as I have said before they might have won the first battle but they will lose the war!.

No, they haven't worn me down yet either.

I get up in the morning and I still have the ability to continue the fight.

Yes, when the case is on they will try and gag you legally or make life hell that you have to go quiet.

But there are some of us who are what one could term

'NO LONGER GAGGED'

And it is great there are a few of us around.

No offense taken.

P4P is going to ruffle feathers - but legally they can't do a thing. There is nothing there that breaks any laws... They can only use it as a nice big bluff that they hope makes them look good and try to rattle a few parents with it.

Honestly, I've had no repercussions about the P4P site. Nobody has asked me to take it offline, I've had no contact from any authorities about it.

im waiting for them to recognise me....if they start hassling me.....Im going to start naming the whole lot of them........

Ooh, can I watch? LOL

Putting names on a public forum does nothing to damage DOCS, After all its just a name say JOE BLOW and the name JOE BLOW means squat for the public as the public is only interested in the story and that it.

Names can be used as long as they are not attributed to anything that can be considered libelous.

A parent can say Jane Doe from Hell office is my CSO... But they can't say Jane Doe from Hell office hit my child with a brick.

Unless it actually happened. LOL

ooooooooooooo wait til I put in that copy of my first letter of concern.....it is covered by witnesses...independant of anything to do with them.......

Well months ago the amount of views was around 50- 80 a day, a bit later we were getting on this thread around 200 a day now I don't bother anymore as this thread alone is nearly up to 65,000 and what about the others combined to total what I would expect to be around 2,500 to 3000 a day.
I will get some accurate figures at a later date.
Now even if we alone account to 1000 of them a day, who are the remaining 1500 to 2000.

PEOPLE POWER....DONT YA JUST LOVE IT!!!!!!!

I speak out for the Aboriginal people in this too, simply because we are one, we are Australia....and to my mind.....It doesnt matter if you're black or white.......there are many new Australians who arrived here not knowing the truth of the horrendous crimes commited on these people....I know, I am one of them......after reading a book " Blood on the Wattle" for the first time in my life I felt true shame at being a white person....until i realised that those same heinous crimes were commited on my ancestors in Scotland.....and many other cultures throughout the world. I cant change things, but i sure can contribute in support to all who suffer at these criminals who betray the ordinary people, in their quest for accountability

History repeats itself in many different ways.

I personally don't care of a family is black, white or polka dotted. A family is a family.

Very true that we can't change what has gone before... But we can make a move to initiate change for what is ahead.

Just in case if guest are just viewing this long thread not knowing there are others please click the link below.
Thanks
http://www.aus-city.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=12&page=1

Good idea - a lot of people only read the page that is infront of them and don't read back through previous posts.

Yes this long thread is getting longer by the day and I suspect some have just bookmarked just this and don't know about the others or even a forum name change with all the new threads.

Yes, I have to agree with you.

Hi,

Been thinking about what I wrote in response to Mr Sniper on 'refused or rejected' topic on this same forum yesterday.

There are 3 main goals here -

1.) Firstly is to educate the public to expose the current practices of docs corrupt workers.

So just how do we do that and what are our tools to do this with?

My answer is this forum is a very good tool - after you wade through the anger and angst feelings expressed here - there are lots of good information and stories to be told to explain what is going on.
So how to reach the masses?
Ok public forum is one way but that is top shelf staff at present.
We are just starting out here in this forum.
So how to reach the masses with limited funds?
What about flyers (1 A4 page with eye catching information that leads the inquisitive reader to this site "www.Aus-City forums.com")
a. flyers into letter box drops (like the junk mail many receive in their letter box)
b. flyers given out at (children's) courts.
c. Flyers sent/ given out to solicitors, cousellors, support agencies, etc.

The flyers will need to have an email address or (query phone number?)where people can voice their support.
This is where we start to gather the numbers that we need for further political action down the track.

2. Lobby for changes to the Child Protection Act 1999 and also to change the method in which the current department of child safety deliver this to the public.

Start up a lobby group.
I think it has to be in South East Queensland (Brisbane) where the biggest number of people live.
And what is the name going to be?
Register the name and formally set it up.
Find a meeting spot/ find donated office space.
Work out a mission statement and all that stuff.
What's our objectives to be reached? what's our slogan?
Make a start and find out what is needed to carry this through.
Elect your president, secretary and treasurer and all those other positions required.
Sub branches of this can operate in various other parts in the state of Queensland.

Once up and running, then we go for the public meetings and do all the big stuff that is required to execute this successfully.
Attend any other meetings/ gatherings that we should have a presence at.

3. Thirdly, once the above has been achieved go about setting up a phone service to the public to give information out about how to deal with docs.
Initially be staffed by volunteers (uni students would love this experience on their CV).
Take statistics from all phone contacts.
Also use your volunteers to do the mail out preparations in their spare time whilst on duty in the office.
Then if looking viable submit for funding to the government on a needs basis for this sort of organisation to exist for the community.

Currently there is a large gap here due to lack of 'know how' amongst the general community and professionals on how to deal with docs.

Around this time frame start up on introducing brochures, that can then be disseminated throughout Queensland to various agencies that deal with people. They can then refer the client to our service.


Please would someone give me feedback on this suggestion.
I don't think it is too grandiose.
It is all do-able in stages, if one stage doesn't get off the ground then have option 2 ready as back up plans.

Hi,

So what can we do from here?

the starting point is make up an A4 brochure or even 1/2 an A4 size that is worded so it reads ok.

Something like -



The Department of Child Safety - Queensland

We aim to educate the public about what really can happen to you and your family.

Learn how the department is only interested in 'protecting the child/ children' at a cost of possibly destroying them and you in their legal process.


There's nothing safe about the Department of Child Safety!

visit to learn more..

www.aus-City forums.com


Ok, I am sure you can do better.
Would you please PM me with your ideas and we can put it together. When ok'ed we can inform all interested members on this site. It will then be up to you to print out, photo copy and start a letter box deliver campaign in your area of Queensland or where ever.


Got any better ideas? something that is do-able, cost effective and can reach the masses.
I'm interested in hearing from you!

I would suggest to contact Amnesty International regarding what the best way to set it all up....they are for one...independant of gov....and contact those barristers that know whats going on as I am sure they are not all in agreeance with these practises....AI am sure would guide us there.

you can forget Amnesty International, been there and done that with them and as always, sorry cant help you.
You want the masses to know, then I recommend SBS insight. this show is about discussing issue and how to resolve them.
SO, if anyone has a mate in media, then whisper in their ear, to do a show. on the abuse of Us.