Hello,

I notice that the view count just keeps going up. I stopped recording the view count when it reached 100,000.
So say hello, please!

I hope you are all ok.
There is heaps of stuff I could post on here but have been too lazy of late!!

It's the end of the year and I am tired. Also deciding my best options for next year so to avoid being as busy as 2008.

I am still waiting for the department to invite me in to discuss their results of their independent investigation of my case back in 2006. Knowing this department they will probably turn the tables and take another notification out on me!

Down on the next topic
"The Department of Child Safety Dating Service"
is where docssniper sarcastically puts it about how docs/ the government are controlling him. wants my kids back then alarmingly writes out her experiences.
It cannot be helped but to liken the modern day child protection services to those of the german nazi's.
It's in the next topic down for all you vouyeristic viewers.

I am glad I am not the only one that has seen it that way.
If we were look at the back grounds of our leaders to see where the family tree starts, I am willing to bet, there be Nazi blood in their vains.

As my Bloodline is to fight against this evil.

My thought for today is...
From a female's (mother/ nurse) perspective.
I am alarmed at how the Department of Child Safety, Queensland does NOT do a thorough D.V. screen when interviewing women.
Their main focus is what the concern is that brought their attentive spotlight to this parent.
Apparently they only ask loosely around issues.

I just rang an intake officer of my local department and had a chat with them. I said I was looking at information from a nurse perspective with regard to mandatory reporting. This is true.

So after that nice conversation with that nice young woman I can now clearly see the link whereby docs can take over from the perpetrator and side with them (offending male) against the women.

and it is not just good enough to say - Q. Has there been any domestic violence in your relationship with the father?

There needs to be question that go on from that and around it like - Q. Are you afraid of this man for any reason? And issues around control and emotional put downs need to be explored.

The lovely intake officer said she sees a lot of situations whereby men are controlling the woman by holding back money, keeping medicare cards away from her, distancing her from her family, along with the usual verbal put down that attack not only her self esteem but her mothering abilities and confidence.
This isn't always about the physical damage, we are talking psychological.

Bing the light has been switched on here for me. This is another area that I will fight for change in and it won't just be in regards to docs interviewing techniques but also within the mental health services.

I'll tell you a secret. For years us nurses have had very little experience with dealing with D.V. we are not educated to ask questions and make links between women and their mental health issues and D.V.
We do not screen for D.V. on the mental health assessment forms (unless it is staring you in the face by way of broken bones and black eyes). And I have worked in all areas for many years in psych. assessments, acute, long stay and community.

It is a huge area that is slipped under the mat. (why because it is to do with women? A taboo area - they get what they deserve mentality?)

It is time for inservice, education, awareness and proper screening.
I am changing my practice after this.

...And for the last comment by Nurse Ratched here
I would like to challenge docs by saying I notice your last research Hoizon's paper was on the issue of 'Cumulative Harm'.

Then I also notice for the recent child protection conference that was held recently in Brisbane in November you had a good roll out on people like Professor Cathy Humphrey and her ilk (? Chris Goddard) and all those acaedemics who challenge the current practices and methods that docs work under.

So I'd like to see docs go back to scratch and start to look at their INTERVIEW and REPORTING techniques.
And this would involved more education for the CSO's at the coal face. More inservice from other care providers/ NGO's.
And it would entail noticing and accommodating what these acaedemic are debating about. they are not stupid you know, so please listen and apply to your practices please (For the children's sake at least).
And as my friend Ms Jann Stuckey questions why have such inexperienced staff right there doing this vital work (There's a CSO right out of uni and coming right into your home to interview you soon!)
And then let's work together for the best interest of the child. (did someone mention child - oops, comments slipping out my mouth!)
And then docs won't have to hide behind their glossy comment about being in partnership with other stake holders in this line of work.

Sort of like get it right the first time (and then you won't have to lie and confabulate and make sweeping generalisations in court- oops did that come out of my mouth too?)

So why aren't Horizons talking/ debating about how to implement these changes into current practices of front line docs workers. that is my question and challenge to that department.

In body language its not the one gesture that governs the whole action to a question, its the sequence of that body movement.
Let take Howard the coward as a EG: when he gave a speech of dribble.
he always plays with his nose, and ear. two signs on its own, that he is lieing. but, if taking on that face values, then most people lie, its can also mean he had a running nose, with a ear infection.
In body language, you just dont look for the one action to tell you everything you need to know, you look and study the multiple of actions when questioned in random.
This is where Human behaviour kicks in and has the same functions as body language.
Take WJ: youngest daughter in a month just from her body language and human behaviour she told me she had Issues. as we bonded, the words came out to back up to what I saw. she also wanted a father figure, and she choice me. WJ: agrees to what I say about her daughter.

So, if DOCS thinks they are educated,why then dont the learn how to use body language and human behaviour ?.

Now add in a polygraph test and that three ways to seek the truth. and not use mind games to abuse. the word in DOCS is Child safety. yet anyone knows that DOCS has nothing to do with child safety, for even that said child is nowhere being safe when in the care of DOCS, nor is any parent.

TIG: lo, how can you challenge retards when they dont even have a full bag of marbles?.
again people have to focus on the QLD PM, its just not DOCS,ya, DOCS are in the front line to protect their master, the QLD PM.

yes, I agree we need to keep the Queensland PM in our focus. Queensland State election time is coming. This is a time to bring out issues and embarass governments.

On paper docs look glossy. As a health worker it all looks up front to me. And one must observe this organisation is gathering more momentum in it's domination of power. It is bigger than family law. bigger than the mental health act 2000 (which now has incorporated policy on child safety issues).
Am I wrong but is it (child protection act 1999) is the most powerful legislation around?
It is king.

So no wonder the corrupt workers can hide behind 'we are only concerned about the child...'.

Which brings me to different thoughts - recruitment and selection. Doesn't the government have a duty of care towards it community which should then be reflected in it's policies in recruiting staff.
I'll go on about this another time. Good night.

oh, let me clarify 'looks up front to me'. whilst I think the docs glossy brochures (could possibly start to give Centrelink a run for their money on this!) look somewhat benign I still remain pro prevention rather than their current system of operating.
Had to get that clear with you viewers.

of cos, its the QLD pm and all the retards sitting around the retard round table. and it just wasnt the 1999 act, theres also the 2004 update to it. done by the then Howard government, even Beattie turned a blind eye and is also accountable, This goes right back to the beginning of DOCS formation.
Like the GST we never needed,but Got.
Every Polly that knows and had their finger in it, are as guilty.
Maybe we should be sanctioning Obama to Open up a World investigation (like the Jews did) into the Australian people protesting of the human abuse to families.

Christmas Eve 24.12.2008

ok guys I wish to tell you that we had a small but victorious win today.
How's that you ask?
The regular readers know that as a Registered Nurse(Mental Health endorsed)by law I am a mandatory reporter as per Public Health Act 2005 -section 191 and 192.
But as I have been up close and personal with docs recently I am very wary of them. I sniff out my allies within my peers and argue on behalf of the client if the question is ever raised 'do we need to contact child safety?'.
And just that happened today.
An unsuspecting, zealous clinician might have brought a client case to docs' attention (and I've previously seen it happen through reading the client file) when this was asked but I openenly debated about the prevention being better than cure arguement (incidentally the docs style of cure is snatch and grab). We discussed what services are around, discussed appropriate referrals and I documented very closely and clearly. It's all above board and that is why I will publically state this.
But I am worried about the ignorant health professionals who notify without being aware of the outcome from docs involvement in children and their families lives(my not so secret endeavour to educate these ignorant nurses/ health professionals!).
And as I drove home just now I thought about how I can honestly say that something good has come out of my involvement and awareness of docs. My motives are alturistic in nature.
I remember what my psych educator said (The now deceased Mr Denny Cowell) "remember whose needs we are meeting".
I wish the department would realise this as we know they aren't meeting the child's needs.

Here's wishing you a Merry Christmas. Hope you all have a safe and good break.

yeah! well, thx to those penis smokers, what they have frkd up can never be mended.
from children, to parents to relationships.
They just FRKd it all up. wheres the merry in that?

There's no 2004 update to the CP ACT.

try again. it was to to with sex with 14-15-16 yrs old. instead of being Unlawful carnal knowledge, it was placed under Paedophilia

Boxing Day

The count is up to 120,000.
Just thought I'd drop by and have a look on here.
Gotta get off to those shops for the bargains!

Hi I’m not sure about this place as I've seen that old thing they write, your posts belong to them crap. I'd like to say I disagree, not on a law term as they do own this post too as long as I don’t copyright my stories first somewhere else.

Eat me

I don’t believe in anarchy but I do believe in destabilising the typical hierarchy that pushes the average person to endure pedantic laws.

I am going to put some challenging evidence before this rather large forum, I would like to know if folks are not going to get all misty eyed

I have looked around a little and see that the ideal of “freedom of speech” is healthy and abundant within these forums.

I understand about senseless abuse but some people tend to get up my nose with stupidity and I can be known to call it how it is. If some individual is an idiot, in the dictionary sense, I will name such an individual in a correct manner. An idiot..

DoCS are idiots.

Just testing.

ya forgot Retarded frk'd up, mental dogs.
and thats in my dictionary.
hate,is nothing to how I am feeling for what the Dogs have done.
Each time I lose and or get dumped, this Emptiness,just rips my guts. tears falls,as all the memories of what I had and what I have become,from DOCS abuse,followed by the abuse from the woman that says Loves.I become a frking UNLESS man.
Begging for my Innocents fell on cold dead hearts.
Begging for the woman I had and the love that was there,also falls on a cold dead heart.
Who is going to mend that,DOCS??. like frking hell. after they invade, there is never ever any mending.

I voice out this pain and DOCS attacks more.
I voice out,about my relationship and how that was crumbling, till it all fell apart.
she to, now will hate me more for doing this.
I try to rescue it,I begged and grovelled. I did nothing to Warrant DOCS killing my life, and I did nothing to Warrant the Partner to dump me in such a manner.
It held no logics.
Unless there is someone else in the picture.
She writes odes to love,but were they meant for me?.

Hi,
What's going on - the count is up to 122,000 today. Where are all the viewers coming from?

Now a confession from me. I have just eatten most of my child's choccies in the fridge. Does that rate as some form of abuse? Child will not be happy when he wakes up!
docs could call it psychological abuse. And then even say I have addiction problems - a compulsive chocoholic.
One might ask why are you taking the mickey out this department. the child abuse problem is huge in Queensland; just look the increasing budget that is allocated to child abuse. Well I take the mickey after I see both personally and professionally how this department operate.
And to me it seems a case of don't work on the holes and problems in the current systems, (hey we know the CSO's lie and do their scandalous and opressive report writing and all the other stuff you whingers on these chat forums go on about) no just dump more money into this vortex.
Forget about prevention being better than cure crap when we have the tax payers money to throw at it. It looks like the government is really concerned with this area. It is a quick fix, look good to the voter type appeal. Seriously if the government thought there was a major problem then we would scale it right back to better screening, education, more effective parenting skills, more organisations involved in parent/ child interaction stuff, better education and training for the CSO's and so it goes on.
see ya!

guess people like to read then get involved.
maybe my bitching everywhere, gave them something to read.

Any form of care a parent gives to their child is a abuse to DOCS eyes

oh boy, this compulsive chocoholic has been eating everything in sight. I hate these holidays for this reason. I have morphed into one fat pig.
I am going on a diet as of tomorrow. I am intending to loose 5 kgs by March 1 2009! What's your new year resolution?

lo, wanna lose weight, spend a week with me. kidding.:)
I have to start to learn to eat better and gain weight.

My new yr thingy.
Hope,deb,comes back. if not, try for another attempt at love. and of cos, I hope this class action soon.

There are really good postings over at the "i hate gov dept. com" (but run the words all into one) site.
I am on a diet. I even put on 2 kilos in 3 days of socialising. I love cheeses, cabana, dips, nuts, mini toasts, cheesecakes, chocolates - yum. I think I was related to Homer Simpson in my last life.
No more chocolate, no more toast, no more peanut butter and honey together, no more dips and nibblies, no more beer, no more chocolate milks. Bring on fibre in form of fruit and vegies and protein.
This obesity thing is just a reflection of our consumer society. It's disgusting.

yeah, i got in a better routine of eating,same for sleeping. that 2-3 kilos will take me like 2-3 months,but a blink of a eye to lose it.
I got a joke on myself for that....but its has to be seen to get it.
I get my car on the this week, weeeeee, freedom, and hope nothing happens that shouldnt.still have to look over my shoulders.
Got a invite to goto Cairns, this week end....Sounds a idea, as if i decide to move, and re start. its a tad closer to move.and a transfer would be easy. there was a plan of a transfer to surfaces Area. As WJ: liked the gold coast area when went there for a holiday. getting a transfer for that would be just as easy.might even get a better house.lol. so many plans and ideas now in limbo.
But Cairns,,mmmmm, The inviter has other reasons,that I dont want to get involved with and thats killing the notion of going.

and hey, I can eat all the junk food going and nothing. I joke about my size. I am the perfect female body,if only I had the Big Boobs:P....lol.

Hello,

I have a phone call coming from the independent people looking into my official complaints about docs. They are called 'Ashdale Integrity' solutions. They rang and booked a telephone time with me for next week.

Also I have a letter from Margaret Keech's offices stating " I have been advised that once the reivew has been finalised, senior staff from the Mermaid Beach Child Safety Centre will contact you in order to arrange a meeting to discuss the outcomes of the review." I recieved this letter last week. (I did receive this sort of letter some months back and it went quiet for awhile).

I expect nothing to come of this of course but somehow these mobs will cover their arses (C.A.R.E. factor stuff - i.e. cover arse remain employed)

I will continue to write my book though as this is the tell all stuff.

Just thought I would share this with anyone who cares to read this update from me.

good night.

Hello,

Well I had the interview phone call from this independent organisation reviewing my case. I spoke for 129 minutes!!! But I am sure you can imagine that I can find it difficult to shut up sometimes - no one would ever say I am quiet.

So it all goes on. I seriously doubt anything will ever come from it. I will forge ahead with writing the book, as I see the best way to counter what has gone on is to get creative and write about it.

Good night.............

Oh these people wanted to focus on 3 keys areas of my complaint.

1. false allegations made by the CSO and her supervisor.

2. disclosure of my address details etc to the abusive male (my child's father)and breach of my confidentiality.

3. abuse that my child received whilst in care and how it was covered up.

If you read this you need to go over to Altnews and read about the little Luke who died in foster care recently. it is both sad and alarming.

Wake up Australia. Wake up World. Just bloody wake up.

[font:Verdana][/font]It is high time DOCS was properly investigated. Given that there are genuine needs for child protection, come on we all know the difference. I am not talking about the kids who are flogged, tortured or abused , they do need looking out for. DOCS Queensland needs to be cleaned out as soon as possible and I for one hope to have a front row seat. Who keeps this mob inline? The cops have one. I fail to see how this one department gets away with so much and despite all the protests, nothing gets done. They watch each others backs and are basically sleeping with each other. Margaret Keech I ask you, when are you going to investigate my complaint along with that of many others. Anna Bligh, when are you going to take notice of the complaints you have gotten. Neither of you can say you have not received any as I have retained proof from you both that you will consider my issues. Hello that was last year, I am still waiting.

Oh dear, some of you know I am onto D.V. issues (and other social issues) and how the department operates/ responds to it all. Well the other day I am sitting in the lunch room and a colleague was very distressed. Apparently her partner is depressed and drinks (typical male) to cope and of course he becomes verbally abusive (I could write the script for these stories). Apparently she hung in that relationship for some time (typical female thinking situation will change) so eventually she cannot take it any longer. Takes out a DVO, then gets the police to act on it and remove the male. The story then
goes on as the police now always do the mandatory reporting thing to docs and as this is a D.V. case; PRESTO the child is now taken directly into foster care as docs state that female is not acting in a protective manner even though she says she always took the child away if the male was getting abusive and now has taken steps to get a DVO out on this male.
Yep, docs chalk up another kids for statistics (more funding please).
So right now as you read this, this poor kid is in FOSTER care and not placed within family and I think the female has no contact with child.
AND then this female rings around a whole bunch of solicitors who say something to the effects of 'forget it docs have made their decision, it's not worth it, unless you want to pay out $5000 up front'. (See the solicitors know how fruitless it is to get legal representation against this docs machine.)
Female says that docs have made a stressful situation now more stressful for the child. It was bandied around the lunch table that is 'not in the best interests of the child'.
THEN the icing on the cake was when the psychologist person disclosed that docs took his children into foster care last year. He said they were twisting facts and information that he was not willing and not able to look after the children. He said it is all process and not in the children's interests.
FAR OUT I thought I was the only mental health professional (mandatory reporter) that had children removed but now it looks like this cancer in society has absolutely no boundaries. So docs are attacking staff in other organisations that it is supposed to be working with. No wonder WE ALL are highly suspicious of docs. Just ask welfare workers what they think of docs and we all tell the same story.
Anyway SOON docs workers will be taking children off their own colleagues. I don't think this is too far fetched.
docs are operating just as the states government allows them in No transparency, no accountability, no professionalism, and well,who cares really as docs are untouchable.
Is this what the government is aiming to achieve with their child protection act 1999?
And I once said to stop the discrimination - why don't docs take every child at birth and then make all the parents fight and spend their hard earned savings (remortgage your house like I had to) fighting the docs machine in court.
Why don't the government put every child into foster care, including their own.
We could start with your grandchildren, nieces and nephews Margaret Keech.
Because due to docs false allegations and their style of one sided investigations it shouldn't be too hard to make sure that every child born into the state of Queensland is deemed a child at risk.

What - you think I am nuts? Ha, I am a well respected and well trained mental health professional in this state.

Holy CRAAAAAAAAP,

I would have liked to have left an inspirational comment for all of you betrayed parents, to give you hope and encourage the fight against the injustice inflicted upon you. But sadly after getting through that post, quite frankly I think I have to vomit!!!

I'll have to return when I have something more positive to say...until then bless all of you in your fight for your children, I hope you all find resolution. And I hope that DOCS finds a CONSCIENCE!!!

I will keep you & your children in my thoughts and prayers.

OK new day, new dawn, back w/something more positive...

Keep informing people of this & resolution will come! As I believe that each experience put on this site benefits others more than one could possibly imagine.

The mere fact that you care enough to inform & warn others, is infact the positive energy needed to get the ball rolling on changing the outcome of such a travesty!

After reading the above post last night,I felt Physically sick that a government could be so ominous in the lives of a family & cause so much greif under the guise of "help"! I am still sick w/anger,fear & greif that this is possible & is being allowed.

But through that same negativeness, comes a feeling of impowerment, knowing that change is possible when prompted by mass consciousness! And you are making the masses conscious! YOU are taking the first step towards CHANGE!

I've read a few of your posts, & am affected by your information - & I don't even live in your country. So I know when the right people read those same articals,that they will be motivated to join the fight, & from that - help will come!

I wish the best of luck to all of you,keep informing,keep sharing, & keep fighting - because in my book you are all PIONEERS starting a REVOLUTION!!!

Bless you all, and peace to you in your fight for your children.

Informing has been done, What is needed is Action. Words have been spoken and gets no where. again Action. If I had the money, I can promise you, That Action would of been done ages ago and most of us wouldnt be here, Begging for help.

if you are wondering where the independent investigation is up to - well they wanted copies of the tapes where I am talking to the department.
I made up these copies as requested and sent them off. It was horrible listening to these tapes again. Where the CSO was saying my child had to stay in foster care and not go to any of my family in Queensland as they were trying to pass the father in NSW to be a carer. The tape exposes where the CSO was telling me I had to stay on medication long term and see a psychiatrist and that 'thoughts are enough for them' and I 'am progressing' and 'not normal'.
It is really sick that the CSO could dictate these stuff yet had no medical backing.
Of course I was not taking any medication and the tapes expose just how normal sounding I was. Of course I don't see a psychiatrist anymore since docs left our lives.
So If i was progressing then with 'thoughts' and since docs are NOT mind readers and considering I am not on medication and don't have follow up with a psychiatrist then does anyone wish to put a notification on me? Because nothing has changed so therefore my son must still be at risk of me. Surely if docs kept my son away from me for close to 7 months then it must have been a big deal.
Does my argument make sense?

Anyway my brain has been clouded since - it invades my dreams and I had chest pain after I completed all the tapes and posted them off.

Not a day goes past without me thinking about docs and how they played at their game.

Oh, and I have the team leader from docs admitting we are on opposing sides when I have her taped asking her 'so what can I do to get my son back'. So is that proof of sorts that it isn't about child safety but rather a legal game.
Because they don't wish to properly present all the story to the courts just their perverted version. You can hear me on tape saying 'but i have never harmed my child' - 'yes, but thoughts are enough for us...'

If you are wondering where my book is up to.
Well I get writer block (if that is what it is called) and find I feel sick in the stomach to write about it so I give the writing a miss for a week or two and then come back to it with a vengence.
It'll get there, I owe it to my son, myself and the people of Queensland.

A block, Huh!
Heres something to open ya mind and start really using that right side of your brain and your thinking.

http://www.google.com/search?q=heiner+affair

Hi, new to the board.

Welcome Mister22

Hello to anyone who still reads this site.
I wish to give you an update on the book I am writing (about my encounter with docs). Well after I had to copy those tapes of my conversations with DOCS (as per request from the independent enquiry) I felt sick to the pit of my stomach and couldn't face writing anymore of the book. I went off and played scrabble on line and did other things to avoid the book. So now some three weeks later I felt ready to get into it again. I am writing again.
I wrote close to 10,000 words this past weekend!! True. With my son having an access visit with his father - that freed me up quite a bit. I will now soldier on with this process. If anyone else has a story to tell then start writing your docs story too. Currently there are no books on the market that expose what this government department is doing. I urge more people to do this. Docs seem untouchable - you can't sue them even if you have grounds for it but you can certainly get creative and write about your experiences.
Often i have doubts about my ability to write a book but there are plenty of people out there who will proof read, help you structure it more correctly. You just need to start somewhere, keep chipping away at it and eventually it will come to fruition.

Good job on sticking with the book!