Is there anyone else who just wish that extraterrestrials or aliens just show themselves already? I mean I'm so sick and tired of all the lying and cover ups by the government who are really secret Illuminati groups anyway. I mean it's 2010 already geesh!!! when will the jig be up? everybody knows that aliens do indeed exist so can we please just get on with the party ughhh!!! um Hello yeah the cat's been out the bag for a while now.

I believe that our so called "government" have been in kahoots with certain alien species since the 1930's! so why do they have to keep lying? I mean I know the obvious reasons, but this crap has to stop. The earth and it's people are in a vast spiritual awakening and transition is occurring as we speak

I can't count how many times I go on the internet and there is a story or pictures about people seeing UFO's or encountering them I know that there are a lot of fakes out there, but I believe that the majority are real. There are a lot of eye witness, me being one of them and I know what I saw to be 100% true so I have to give the benefit of the doubt to other people.

We live in a digital era where pictures, Iphones, Internets and all are part of our daily lives, seriously how long do you think they can keep this secret going for? Like it really is a secret anyway ha!!!! are they slowly trying to come out with their suppose "disclosure project" releasing all their "X-files" all of a sudden! come on how stupid do they think we really are?

It's already indoctrined in our pop culture, we are engulfed with movies and shows about aliens and monsters and violence as it it. I really don't think we'll be that surprised or shocked that people will start committing suicide like the pope's chief astrologer said. Yes, I know it will change people's views on religion and they will feel like they were lied to for generations!!!!! but that's the point maybe we need that!!!! and they were lied to. It's time to change and like they say the "truth shall set you free" and that is just something that they will have to learn to deal with.

Sorry for my rantings but I just had to let that all out. I just get so mad over this so, I have a few questions for all the pondering minds out there:

Am I the only one that think we are living in one of those alien movies like "Signs" or one of the older black and white ones? or we are about to very fast become one of those movies?

When do you think aliens will show their true selves I mean to everybody not just a select few? How many years?

How will it affect us humans in today's society? Would we be as vulnerable as the people on that show V? (meaning would we idolize them as let's say a new "god" and put all our eggs in one basket to trust in them and believe that they are on our side)

How would it affect you as a individual? your family?


please discuss...


namaste,
orb

Wow! What a post!

I think it is good to be angry because anger = ready for change. I also have felt anger toward the fear exhibited by the majority and those in leadership positions (and the govt that knows stuff), etc. I'm with ya sista.

I have kinda followed the Gary McKinnon story over the years. From Wiki:



He says he did indeed find (satellite) photos that contained UFO which were before/after airbrushing - airbrushing the UFOs out of photos for public consumption. Unfortunately he was unable to download any of the photos before being busted.

Then there is the Disclosure Project headed by Dr. Steven Greer. I bought and read 1/2 of his book "Hidden Truth: Forbidden Knowledge. If it is true, then words fail me. Yet I can't believe it is entirely untrue (all that he says) and at the same time, part of me thought it was not the only angle and only truth so I lost my compulsion to continue reading.

Still, there IS something to aliens and government cover-up. And just FYI, I have no doubt about the Roswell crash. Too many witnesses with consistent stories and heartfelt emotions.

I even believe STRONGLY that the NASA moon landings did not happen, certainly not manned landing and not as they presented it. I don't really know what man (NASA or govt) is capable of, but I know that there is lying and deceit so what they say we can and cannot do is convoluted.

However, I don't think they are "bad" or lying because they are evil, etc. It is about power, for sure, but also fear. It was about being the first to the moon, JFK making the statement that it would happen, the powers-that-be feeling they could not lose face and had to win. What has happened since is all twisted because if the moon landings didn't happen as they projected it, then it pollutes all future findings because they won't line up with this moon landing lie, so new twists and lies must be created. For example no stars in the photos, the color of the dirt, everything about what it would be like to stand on the moon is imagined based on what they thought at the time. Any new evidence that doesn't fit what they said then becomes something that must be twisted or hidden. And they can't admit to it, or they feel they can't. Imagine the impact and hatred and anger from the taxpaying people who funded the billions of dollars (and were lied to - ouch - and now wonder where the money went, etc.). It is hard to imagine the same people who would lie to gain advantage or keep their position as a world leader, now admitting failure or deception.



I strongly believe movies, books, popular fiction is a way for the consciousness to assimilate information about a greater reality in the process of being revealed. And those stories reflect varying scenarios of our hopes and fears (not necessarily the balanced truth of outcome). For me personally, there is the whole werewolf/vampire thing. Sure, I read the Anne Rice novels about vampires (and loved them) but I left that fictional world behind and moved on when I finished reading them. I have read lots of fiction whose characters didn't appear later on in my life (like the vampires) offering to teach me to become a masterful human. So why vampires? That's one point. It now intrigues me how much vampire and werewolf permeate our culture. Why? Certainly some will think that I was influenced by fiction and then created a mask for my visitors, or perhaps I have created them entirely in my mind. And all I can say (like people with ET interactions) is, they were here before the fiction. The fiction is a reflection of their presence.

So the same goes with the classic ETs that some claim first were brought about by Whitley Strieber. Maybe he was the first to document them publicly, maybe not. I'm not sure. But, I believe they existed well before anyone imagined them, or flying saucers, etc., though Whitley did not claim to imagine them, but experienced them as real. The point is, the reality of ETs, vampires, etc., is not a product of imagination, rather, imagination is a product of ETs and vampires, etc.



I think there has been a snowball effect where more and more are seeing them. I can only guess on what the future holds, but I think that on winter solstice 21 Dec 2012, a veil will be lifted and everyone will know. But who knows. Predictions only become really interesting in hindsight when they are verified.



I like the new series of V. Anna! The show is so interesting regarding the trust of the humans, etc. There are also those shows in the past where people tried to kill the aliens, fire on them, etc. Lots of those type of scenarios have been portrayed. There are also physical-reality stories of military trying to fire on UFOs. So if humans have any reaction, it would be to shoot them. But that's the military and do we civilian humans have any control over the military?

Still, I believe it will be moot. I think once the veil is lifted, everything will change entirely. Pettiness from a source of ignorance will be gone. Maybe the veil lifting will require an entire physical change, too. Maybe we won't be in the same density of body (hence all of our animal instincts will change - no fight/flight). Because maybe it will entail the whole earth shifting.

Oh, but I don't think there are evil aliens, in the same way that I don't believe that there are evil humans. (Hands up anyone who agrees - hands, anyone... )...

I think that if there are two sides that feud, whichever side you are on is the "right" side to you, the "good guys". In the end to me it is just varying opinions. If there are aliens doing something we think is evil, we may find out, given more time and knowledge, that what they do benefits all at some level. To be honest, everything I have ever conceived of has a benefit. Everything, even the deepest darkest thing.



It would change everything. What seems important to some like accumulating physical things, money, prestige, would probably diminish or disappear. Actually knowing that there is "more" to life would be so liberating to most of us. Though strong belief (which I have) is so close to knowing that I don't think it will be a gigantic leap to have it revealed. It would still have a shock value though to physically see, smell, touch what I now experience entirely cerebrally. For sure!

Wow orb , your post was just the kind I LOVE! It gets my mental juices flowing. It makes me want to respond. It lights my fire! Thank you for being so brave as to state your opinion and so generous and open-minded as to ask for others' opinions as well. Now THIS is how we learn and grow (and ascend). All hail Orb Queen.

I hope more peeps will chip in their on this topic...

I hope it's not going to be like "Signs" that is the first Alien movie that has ever actually scared me , the part where it Alien is moving around up on the roof, don't know why but that part always freaks me out lol. What about that movie "Alien Nation" where they mostly got along together lol.


Agrees

Unless i have direct contact with the Aliens i don't think it would change my life very much since i already accept their existance as fact. Although i woke up this morning half convinced i had been visited after i found what looks like a needle hole in my wrist lmao

Oh yay!



I would love more details...

Was there any sign whatsoever of blood, or just a hole?!

Do you remember anything else, lights, sensations, little entities

Do you intuit what they were doing that they made a hole (oo, I spelt it "whole" before correcting it ) in your wrist?

ooo I would love to hear details too!! but won't read until daytime if there's one thing I fear besides the spider thing is alien abductions yes I am a very impressionable person when it comes to that type of thing so I can't get those type of thoughts or ideas in my mind right before bedtime. It's the sorta thing I talk about in my spider post. Will be back have lots more to say and comment on you guys replys... by the way Alisa roach or spider? LOL;)

No blood, just a neat little hole on one of the main veins of my wrist. i woke up and felt a slight itch there and i saw it and was like "oook, that wasn't there when i went to bed last night."
All i remember was dreaming about our old goat we had while i was still living in Victoria, she was lying down in our shed giving birth to organs (kidneys, brains, lungs) so it's was a bit of an odd night, but no little green men running around or flashy lights, except that light blue/white one i was telling you about earlier Alisa.

It was probably just a mosquito or something lol, though it's not a raised itchy bump like normal. but if it was aliens or something i'd say they just took some blood, i should stick a note above my bed, "Take Blood, at least Leave a Damn Lollypop!" lol
And now it's like extra odd coming across this topic after this morning *plays X-Files theme music*

Thanks for the description, Lyprith! How weeeird about the goat. And kind of a sync as night before last I dreamed of someone giving birth to a child that looked like an organ (it was like a large square heart or some other internal organ). Just seems beyond coincidence you mentioning the goat and my recent dream.

The blue light is significant. You had some sort of interaction with something whether it is related to the hole or not. When I had blue light (associated with White Wolf) I would have a tinkling in my ear in the days surround the visit and I swore there was something implanted in my ear. I still think there was whether it was wholly on a physical level or not. The tinkling thing sounded like what I would picture a teeny tiny bottle with a little leaf of metal in it clinking around would sound like. And sometimes it followed the laws of physics, for example if I tilted my head it would tinkle, but then if I tilted my head again to test it, it would NOT tinkle again. Interestingly, the tinkling mostly correlated with my thoughts. I interpreted this way - when I would think of a "good" thought (one that made lots of sense or was a synchroncity to something else) then I would get the tinkle noise.

Oh, and I feel the tinkling was in some way related to me translating or hearing her speak (her language was music). But it may have had other purposes. And maybe it was merely to raise my consciousness (that I heard it tinkle when I would think certain things). Or maybe it was a way of tracking or filtering my thoughts.



Anyyyway. The fact that the hole did not present as a usual mosquito bite adds validity to the concept that this is something else. And that it syncs with this topic -it's like the hole is a heads-up-take-notice. And that may be the main reason we get physical manifestations from encounters. To give us a taste of physical relevancy. Like a ticket stub left from a movie you saw saying "You were there" even if you forgot most of the movie.

And along those lines, I was reminded of a recent experience in which I awoke with a triangle of red dots on my ring finger. It is a similar thing to your hole in the wrist because it was like "Hey, this wasn't here last night!" And also it didn't itch nor was it actual scabs (though a few days later they seemed to be inlaid scabs that brushed off). I took a photo because I thought it was just too symmetrical to be naturally occurring. I also found that I could reason it away or I could reason it as something significant. I do get little rashes on my hands frequently. It could be from that. Yet, a perfect triangle of bright red dots? Anyway, I finally have a reason to share the photo (thank you Orb Queen and Lyprith).

Ok I'm back! YAY!! it's day time LOL!! great info Alisa about the hacker guy very interesting! It just proves once again that they are truly out there.

I'm right there with you on the whole NASA thing. I read all about it and saw the pictures on youtube you should check it out if you never seen them the images are incredible. I know what you mean about the evil/good concept, I really don't believe in that either in the spiritual form, but I do think the evil concept is represented in the physical form. People do evil things but does that really make them a evil person? on earth Yes in consciousness No. I can't really explain what I'm trying to say I guess you just have to get the jist of how I think LOL!!!

Anyway,I know that fiction really comes from reality and that's where all those movies actually come from, but lately I've been thinking that recently we been having events very similar to the movie "The Happening" the reason I say that is because lately in the news, reports have been flying in about people getting hurt or killed by trees, like branches big ones falling on them for no reason. There was a story on CNN about a six month old baby who was killed in NY zoo when a branch from a tree fell on top of her and her mom(the tree was healthy). I know it's not the same thing, but in the movie the plants and trees were killing people by releasing a toxin in the air that made everyone go nuts and to commit suicide. It was like the earth was taking vengenece on humankind!

Lyprith, Wow! I didn't know "Signs" was your "freak out" alien movie LOL!! I have one too it's the "Fourth Kind" have any one seen it? boy I couldn't have a good night's sleep for like three days in a row. I'm ok with aliens I'm just not too keen on the abduction thing so to hear your story about the goat and all was very creepy! and Alisa those marks on your hand is indeed very odd and the symmetrical alignment of those tiny circles are too perfect for a insect.

Oh I'm so glad you watch V YAY!! I love Anna!!! she is just so coy and cynical at the same time. Hopefully the species that reveal themselves to us are the benevolent ones first. I mean there are a lot of alien races just like they are human races so I won't be surprise if they are many kinds of aliens to lift the veil. wouldn't that be something if they (aliens) had two different sides and were fighting their own battle and us poor earth folks are just stuck in the middle?

I know Alisa that you'll be one of the less people to really be shocked that they are true "aliens" amongst us you'll be like "See I told you so" LOL ha ha ha!!! "I'm not the looney one after all" and I'll be singing the same tune on this end as well.


Thanks guys for all your awesome replies!! Alisa you are too kind with words about my post I'm so glad I could "get your juices flowing" it makes it all the more fun! now I hope I can stimulate some more folks with this topic and Lyprith have you actually seen a UFO? if so I would love to hear the story:)

I've never seen the movie The Happening. Sounds good and scary! Thanks for sharing all of that OQ!

I saw "the Happening," i thought it was a good movie. Nature might rise up and kill a heap of people every now and them, but i think it's just an attempt to try and regain a balance.

I've never seen a UFO, never really been interested in the whole Alien thing at all (ok except the usual geek fest with things like Stargate SG1 and the like).
And the whole government cover-up every major country seems to be apart of has never really bothered me that much, cause i figured that it'll all come out when it's ready to. Like you said
The Government just needs to pull their heads out of their ass's and realise that the public are not as stupid as them.

Oh and Alisa, love your three little dots they remind me of the three circles we both drew. a physical manifestation from an encounter with a spirit or guide makes more sense to me than an alien creeping around my house with a needle lol. I really should have thought about physical manifestations because i've read about them so many times but from what i can remember i don't think i've ever had anything like that happen before, but it definatly makes sense, since i've started acknowledging things more they seems to be escalating
I tried taking a picture of my little wrist hole, but i couldn't get a clear enough shot. It's just about faded away now

Thank you. It would be a cool cryptic tattoo to get 3 little dots on a finger like that.

Here's an example of the 3 circles I spontaneously seem to draw in my visual journal (and to which Lyprith refers as also having drawn similarly)...





Although, it makes one wonder what difference there is between spirit guides and aliens. (White wolf is my guide yet appears very alien-like in the classical sense. Oh, and I've seen her "craft" which looks like a classic UFO).






I can so relate!

I didn't do a very good job, but i thought the dots kind of look like one of your dogs?


Ages ago i had a little bottle of henna which i used to draw a symbol like The Caduceus on my hand between my finger and thumb, i did that everyday for months until someone told me it was the symbol for medicine lol.

Actually, that is a good job you did on the dog. And another good tattoo idea, I think. Cuuute!

So you used to draw the caduceus symbol spontaneously, eh?! I wonder what that means. I know it is now the symbol for medicine, but maybe it has different origins. I just wonder what it means in context to you. Also, it can't be brushed aside that you'd just draw something like that without prior knowledge of it in this lifetime. It certain indicates something quite amazing, really.

I got a bit curious and did a search on the Caduceus, was pleasantly surprised how interesting it all was.


I found this too which was quiet interesting.



And i just hijacked the thread lol.

I've always thought of Aliens as beings of the physical world, like people. But i suppose if they were more advanced than us 4000 years ago it's likely that they'd be more advanced spiritually?

Maybe you had some type of job to do with medicine in one of your past lives, like a doctor or a shaman. Do you have any interest in medicine now?

I have an interest in Reki (Energy healing) and natural remedies. So i suppose more the metaphysical medicine than modern medicine.