phills case is different, Espn via cband was never marketed in the old days as a DTH service. It was more for those that could afford to install cband equipment, such as Hotels, PUBS etc. It made commercial sense for them to phase out the very few Cband users once Foxtel took over selling the channel via DTH ku band.<br /><br />I'm pretty sure commercial organisations can still sub to ESPN via Television Oceania