Wow! What a post! highfive

I think it is good to be angry because anger = ready for change. I also have felt anger toward the fear exhibited by the majority and those in leadership positions (and the govt that knows stuff), etc. I'm with ya sista.

I have kinda followed the Gary McKinnon story over the years. From Wiki:

Originally Posted by wiki
a Glasgow-born systems administrator and hacker who has been accused of what one US prosecutor claims is the "biggest military computer hack of all time,"[1] although McKinnon himself states that he was merely looking for evidence of free energy suppression and a cover-up of UFO activity and other technologies potentially useful to the public. After a series of legal proceedings in the UK, McKinnon is currently awaiting extradition to the United States.


He says he did indeed find (satellite) photos that contained UFO which were before/after airbrushing - airbrushing the UFOs out of photos for public consumption. Unfortunately he was unable to download any of the photos before being busted.

Then there is the Disclosure Project headed by Dr. Steven Greer. I bought and read 1/2 of his book "Hidden Truth: Forbidden Knowledge. If it is true, then words fail me. Yet I can't believe it is entirely untrue (all that he says) and at the same time, part of me thought it was not the only angle and only truth so I lost my compulsion to continue reading.

Still, there IS something to aliens and government cover-up. And just FYI, I have no doubt about the Roswell crash. Too many witnesses with consistent stories and heartfelt emotions.

I even believe STRONGLY that the NASA moon landings did not happen, certainly not manned landing and not as they presented it. I don't really know what man (NASA or govt) is capable of, but I know that there is lying and deceit so what they say we can and cannot do is convoluted.

However, I don't think they are "bad" or lying because they are evil, etc. It is about power, for sure, but also fear. It was about being the first to the moon, JFK making the statement that it would happen, the powers-that-be feeling they could not lose face and had to win. What has happened since is all twisted because if the moon landings didn't happen as they projected it, then it pollutes all future findings because they won't line up with this moon landing lie, so new twists and lies must be created. For example no stars in the photos, the color of the dirt, everything about what it would be like to stand on the moon is imagined based on what they thought at the time. Any new evidence that doesn't fit what they said then becomes something that must be twisted or hidden. And they can't admit to it, or they feel they can't. Imagine the impact and hatred and anger from the taxpaying people who funded the billions of dollars (and were lied to - ouch - and now wonder where the money went, etc.). It is hard to imagine the same people who would lie to gain advantage or keep their position as a world leader, now admitting failure or deception.

Originally Posted by orb_queen
Am I the only one that think we are living in one of those alien movies like "Signs" cowabduction or one of the older black and white ones? or we are about to very fast become one of those movies?


I strongly believe movies, books, popular fiction is a way for the consciousness to assimilate information about a greater reality in the process of being revealed. And those stories reflect varying scenarios of our hopes and fears (not necessarily the balanced truth of outcome). For me personally, there is the whole werewolf/vampire thing. Sure, I read the Anne Rice novels about vampires (and loved them) but I left that fictional world behind and moved on when I finished reading them. I have read lots of fiction whose characters didn't appear later on in my life (like the vampires) offering to teach me to become a masterful human. So why vampires? That's one point. It now intrigues me how much vampire and werewolf permeate our culture. Why? Certainly some will think that I was influenced by fiction and then created a mask for my visitors, or perhaps I have created them entirely in my mind. And all I can say (like people with ET interactions) is, they were here before the fiction. The fiction is a reflection of their presence.

So the same goes with the classic ETs that some claim first were brought about by Whitley Strieber. Maybe he was the first to document them publicly, maybe not. I'm not sure. But, I believe they existed well before anyone imagined them, or flying saucers, etc., though Whitley did not claim to imagine them, but experienced them as real. The point is, the reality of ETs, vampires, etc., is not a product of imagination, rather, imagination is a product of ETs and vampires, etc.

Originally Posted by orb_queen
When do you think aliens will show their true selves I mean to everybody not just a select few? How many years?


I think there has been a snowball effect where more and more are seeing them. I can only guess on what the future holds, but I think that on winter solstice 21 Dec 2012, a veil will be lifted and everyone will know. But who knows. Predictions only become really interesting in hindsight when they are verified. vcheeky

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How will it affect us humans in today's society? Would we be as vulnerable as the people on that show V? (meaning would we idolize them as let's say a new "god" and put all our eggs in one basket to trust in them and believe that they are on our side)


I like the new series of V. Anna! freaked The show is so interesting regarding the trust of the humans, etc. There are also those shows in the past where people tried to kill the aliens, fire on them, etc. Lots of those type of scenarios have been portrayed. There are also physical-reality stories of military trying to fire on UFOs. So if humans have any reaction, it would be to shoot them. But that's the military and do we civilian humans have any control over the military?

Still, I believe it will be moot. I think once the veil is lifted, everything will change entirely. Pettiness from a source of ignorance will be gone. Maybe the veil lifting will require an entire physical change, too. Maybe we won't be in the same density of body (hence all of our animal instincts will change - no fight/flight). Because maybe it will entail the whole earth shifting. dunno

Oh, but I don't think there are evil aliens, in the same way that I don't believe that there are evil humans. (Hands up anyone who agrees - hands, anyone... mellow)... chuckle

I think that if there are two sides that feud, whichever side you are on is the "right" side to you, the "good guys". In the end to me it is just varying opinions. If there are aliens doing something we think is evil, we may find out, given more time and knowledge, that what they do benefits all at some level. To be honest, everything I have ever conceived of has a benefit. Everything, even the deepest darkest thing.

Originally Posted by orb_queen
How would it affect you as a individual? your family?


It would change everything. What seems important to some like accumulating physical things, money, prestige, would probably diminish or disappear. Actually knowing that there is "more" to life would be so liberating to most of us. Though strong belief (which I have) is so close to knowing that I don't think it will be a gigantic leap to have it revealed. It would still have a shock value though to physically see, smell, touch what I now experience entirely cerebrally. For sure! omgosh

Wow orb queen, your post was just the kind I LOVE! It gets my mental juices flowing. It makes me want to respond. It lights my fire! Thank you for being so brave as to state your opinion and so generous and open-minded as to ask for others' opinions as well. Now THIS is how we learn and grow (and ascend). allhail All hail Orb Queen.

I hope more peeps will chip in their twocents on this topic...