When I was made Redundant back in 1991 the company that won the contract Kilpatrick Green payed its workers the $11,000 per year less for a 38hr week than the Government job. I joined the company two years later for $11,000 a year less and within Twelve months all contracts went up for grabs again and KG was not in the race for the contract and a 2 BOB company called P.E.T at Botany won the contract and took most of the workers From KG but paid the around $4000 less than K Green. So in simple terms the Workers That were made Redundant from the Government Job were grabbed By K .Green for $11,000 less only four years later to lose another $4000 in changing to another company (P.E.T) and this John Howards tell you Wages are going up,. PISS OFF!!.<br />And for Telstra workers well what can I say they will be screwed to the death and anyone over 40-50 will be unemployable.