I'm in the market for a STB. People have suggested the Opentel and the Xtreme, what do others think? I basically want it for IR2, future proofing for TvPlus, and I also to just much around with it.<br />Any suggestions would be appreciated!

For me I would spend a little more and buy a dreambox as there are to many rubbish products on the market today. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Dreams seem very complicated with all that Linux stuff

Ive found the Homecast receiver to be a very honest and reliable receiver and easy to use. I also had a good run with the Topfield 3000 CiPro to be good.

I use Opentel, Strong, KosCom and few others and I reckon, Strong is the best of all. <img src="http://www.delicaparts.com/Satellite/Smilies/S_Cool.gif" alt=" - " /> <br />BTW, Dreambox which I'd like to have, is out of my range ($$$) <img src="http://www.delicaparts.com/Satellite/Smilies/S_Siroma.gif" alt=" - " />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by YU4CFG:<br /><strong> I use Opentel, Strong, KosCom and few others and I reckon, Strong is the best of all. <img src="http://www.delicaparts.com/Satellite/Smilies/S_Cool.gif" alt=" - " /> <br />BTW, Dreambox which I'd like to have, is out of my range ($$$) <img src="http://www.delicaparts.com/Satellite/Smilies/S_Siroma.gif" alt=" - " /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">the Opentel are shit they over heat keep an eye on them in summer.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by reuder:<br /><strong> Dreams seem very complicated with all that Linux stuff </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes they are but I viewed the first one in action last week and they are incredible. They are very complicated but worth it, I could not belive what this Dreambox model 7000 could do and the guy who owns the setup told me its only the start. I think having all of TV plus channels (He is a Serb) plus Foxtel plus everything on intelsat 701 plus Aurora and with over 100 different plugins in the box (weather channel etc) with a keyboard, plus a 300Gig Hardrive also another 300Gig Hardrive in the computer that the dreambox can connect to to transfer movies to the Computer to be DVD burnt. Now what else has it got, LOST count!!!! The sky is the limit its a pity they are so complicated but if you are willing to learn and put time into them its worth it by a mile. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by King Curtis:<br /><strong>the Opentel are shit they over heat keep an eye on them in summer. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I didn't say Opentel is the best, but it gives you value for money ($150 Brand New, 1 year Warranty)<br />They're a bit hot but with adequate ventilation there is no need for fire extinguisher <img src="http://www.delicaparts.com/Satellite/Smilies/S_WOW.gif" alt=" - " />

Thanks guy for your help, I've looked at the Opentel one and it does seem the best value. What doe people think about the Humaxs?

once you play a little with dreams..they arent that complicated....like any toy, just needs a litle playtime. BTW 7000's are no longer available, next one is the 7020...they are expensive but very versatile. <br />If you just want to watch TV the cheapest box will do it....ie dreamax-470(ucas)or humax. But for future proof you cant go past dreamboxes and they have the most diverse support available.

But the trouble is guys aren't prepared to spend time understanding them. I have spent around 50 + hours and I'm still scratching my head but I'm still miles in front of others.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> But the trouble is guys aren't prepared to spend time understanding them. I have spent around 50 + hours and I'm still scratching my head but I'm still miles in front of others. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think most people want to watch 50 hours of TV rather than play with their decoders.<br /><br />I've heard good things about the dreambox but I still don't own one. But I have many others.

I love them!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> they are a great Brain tease <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

I see the price of the new dreambox is nearly $1000 for this it must be good but not many have them as you have to be smart to be able to use them.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Master V:<br /><strong> I see the price of the new dreambox is nearly $1000 for this it must be good but not many have them as you have to be smart to be able to use them. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Smart and rich <img src="http://www.delicaparts.com/Satellite/Smilies/S_WideSml.gif" alt=" - " />

They are worth every cent they cost.

you can get the 500si(cut down 5620)...not badly priced, or if you look hard 5620(cut down 7000).....great box and better priced generally than the 500si. <br />Then there the older 7000...great box getting harder to find....might be a different story when the 7025 come out.<br />Then there's the 7020....better than the 7000 but still pricey.<br />7025...lots of promised features....big bucks<br />7080/85 has been scrapped.<br /><br />Hope this helps

How good is the STRONG 4652 receiver??<br /><br />Any suggestions?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by me_ashman:<br /><strong> you can get the 500si(cut down 5620)...not badly priced, or if you look hard 5620(cut down 7000).....great box and better priced generally than the 500si. <br />Then there the older 7000...great box getting harder to find....might be a different story when the 7025 come out.<br />Then there's the 7020....better than the 7000 but still pricey.<br />7025...lots of promised features....big bucks<br />7080/85 has been scrapped.<br /><br />Hope this helps </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">For me the 7025 will be the go, I know its money but for me I would save my money and either buy a used 7000 or the new 7025, ALL I can say is learn how a dreambox works , DON'T BE LAZY! and forget anything else they belong in the last century's technology.

I have spent the last week learning how to use the 7000 model with Da Vinci image in it and I'm now learning how to use it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> I can share now my Aurora card from my box to my brothers box 6 km away. I'm happy just to do this and this alone has taken me over a month to understand how to do it.<br />I wonder what I will do next!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Guys get your finger out and do the same because as soon as the 7025 comes out I'm buying one. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Its the only way to learn how the suckers work.

What is one to do if Linux is alient to them though?

not sure what alint means but it's like anything....just need to get a grip on it.

Sontime a little help from a friend that knows these devils goes a long way.

The word I meant to type was alien... I meant if Linux is strange to someone how do they use the Dreambox units...<br /><br />ew_289,<br /><br />All my mates know about is how to get pron and body building.

there is plenty online to read and learn...ask questions and in no time you're away.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by me_ashman:<br /><strong> there is plenty online to read and learn...ask questions and in no time you're away. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yep, I have followed two other dreambox forums and I have asked questions and its the only way I have learnt, but I'm still a novice compared to some. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

me_ashman & P Debono, <br /><br />Without breaking any forum rules, may I ask for the links to these DB forums please?<br /><br />Thank you for any possible assistance and help.