With B1 having some problems recently, if B1 goes tits up. B3 will have to be moved to 160E to temporarily replace it. <br /><br />If so you can say goodbye to UBI! (and Globecast too for that matter though they can move elsewhere)<br /><br />Total Chaos!

?????? Dont think so!!!! tough luck for B1....UBI is to stay in B3 foreverrrrrrrrrrrrr

I highly doubt that will be happening.<br /><br />Your rumor or speculation is not needed. You shouldn't be posting this as it will scare current and future customers.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. May 2005, 07:05 AM: Message edited by: LISKI WORLD TV ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> With B1 having some problems recently, if B1 goes tits up. B3 will have to be moved to 160E to temporarily replace it. <br /><br />If so you can say goodbye to UBI! (and Globecast too for that matter though they can move elsewhere)<br /><br />Total Chaos! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> With B1 having some problems recently, if B1 goes tits up. B3 will have to be moved to 160E to temporarily replace it. <br /><br />If so you can say goodbye to UBI! (and Globecast too for that matter though they can move elsewhere)<br /><br />Total Chaos! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And that would make you happy wouldn't it!! Why are you going to ring up Murdoch and tell him to pull his strings to Screw Boulos up again are you.<br />B1 mainly services New Zealand and its about time NZ gets its own Satellites.<br />Thanks for the tip. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> With B1 having some problems recently, if B1 goes tits up. B3 will have to be moved to 160E to temporarily replace it. <br /><br />If so you can say goodbye to UBI! (and Globecast too for that matter though they can move elsewhere)<br /><br />Total Chaos! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Too many assumptions mate. How do you know that Optus will deploy B3 into B1's position? They may other options which you and I are not aware of. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Pull your finger out and tell me what it smells like <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Highly unlikely!!!<br /><br />Contracts forbid them doing that. Do you honestly think UBI and Globecast would not sue the **** off Optus? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />No mate, things don't just get moved around! Optus is not just a "fly by the seat of your pants" company, mate...<br /><br />Let's not even go into the technical nightmare of what's involved in repositioning sat's...<br /><br /><br />Vlad...

My post wasn't meant to scare potential UBI or Globecast customers. Just a warning as to what may happen depending on how serious the problems with B1 are.<br /><br />Firstly B1 IS having troubles including Transponders being shutoff for an hour the other night. THAT isn't minor when they have to do that! as is last night when another 10 minute shutdown occured.<br /><br />In an emergency situation such as complete failure of another satellite. Some contracts are null and voided. "pre-emptibble" remember when I804 failed. All urgent traffic was moved to 701 this meant all non urgent was shifted elsewhere "pre -empted" e.g Pac TV mux, TBN etc all had to shift elsewhere.<br /><br />The major customers on B1 are SKY NZ and the Aus govt (abc'sbs terrestrial feeds etc)<br /><br />IF b1 was to fail, the backup would defintely be B3 hurried to 160E so Sky NZ and abc/sbs terrestrial transmitter feeds could resume service as quickly as possible.<br /><br />This would mean Optus using Emergency clauses in the contracts of those currently on B3. Yes that would probably include remuration for affected customers such as costs being paid to repoint customers dishes if they had to move elsewhere.<br /><br />NO other solution exists, options for UBI would be a change in sat to either Asiasat 4ku or NSS6 or nss5. I doubt there would be enough space on the H side of B3 if moved to 160E as existing customers of B1 such as the abc/sbs services would be higher up the ladder in terms of importance.

B1 was used last night for example with the SOO, from brisbane to Sydney back end network link (satellite feed)<br /><br />+ several other service options.<br /><br />As far as I know (Service Delivery technical team) have posted no news about B1 having problems.

Well I can tell you it IS having some problems. As to how serious they are, only Optus will know that.<br /><br />But D1 as replacement, is still 6 months away.<br /><br />as I said Complete failure would mean Chaos for all optus customer.<br /><br />As for your comment Phill do you think Murdochs sitting on a pacfic island some place with a 30 meter dish beaming crap at B1 in effort to knock it out of orbit ;-)

Wao heavy stuff....thats why I like this forum and the other one with the same name as the username who started this thread!!!!<br /><br />Im learning about sats at a lighting speed...If I keep at it, I think in about a year I'll launch my own satellite....megb68-sat ;-)

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Well I can tell you it IS having some problems. As to how serious they are, only Optus will know that.<br /><br />But D1 as replacement, is still 6 months away.<br /><br />as I said Complete failure would mean Chaos for all optus customer.<br /><br />As for your comment Phill do you think Murdochs sitting on a pacfic island some place with a 30 meter dish beaming crap at B1 in effort to knock it out of orbit ;-) </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You have been around for a while when the name Murdoch pops up anything is possible, Ohhhhhhhhh thats right if B1 failed would Murdoch take C1 No Fu.cking way. (No don't tell me it Hasn't got NZ Beams) So Yes I understand this Pre Emptive crap I was explained it about 5 years ago.<br />So what you're saying the poxy ABC and SBS channel + NZ fox TV is more important than Australia'a Use of a 50% owned Australia Satellite For an Australian Service.<br />About Your Comment about Murdoch sitting on an Island wiping the Bird out, I'm still laughing but you and I know what he is capable of.<br />Where's John Howard? I'm Emailing him about this. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I'm Starting to wonder if Apsattv TV is working for Sky TV <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> It would be good to see him for a change give Praise to UBI for doing a good job of bringing ethnic Channels for the Australian community. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />Only last week My sister was connected to TV plus and we were Talking about UBI, the Contractor that installed the TV plus installation said very clearly and we Believed him that UBI will not get any more channels as they have filled their transponders and because there is no more spare positions UBI will definitely not get any channels for the Balkans people <br />Now I see that UBI has turned on Today another Transponder and if they fill that with Balkans channels I will curse that lying contractor. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

Meatball,<br /><br />If you read the Macedonian newspaper last week it states that UBI are planning on:<br /><br />3 x Macedonian (Includes the K-15/UBI joint venture channel)<br />2 x Bulgarian<br />2 x Bosian<br />3 x Serbian<br />2 x Croatian<br /><br />UBI nearly finished building an Earth Station in Skopje, Macedonia to bring heaps of new channels from the Balkans to Australia.<br /><br />Plus don't forget the other Earth Station that is nearly completed in Greece!<br /><br />GO UBI!<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. May 2005, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: LISKI WORLD TV ]</small>

Liski<br />The trouble is and we have found is who do you believe, Most of the time this forum is very helpful and only today i got on to see if there is any changes and what do I read the opposite what I was told only last week about UBI getting more channels as again I was told in simple terms they have no more room and thats it.<br />But i did read on other post that Arabic,Turkish and now Latino customers are very happy and I wish what you say comes true because some of us Mainly our parents will be very happy with UBI when they show us what they are about to offer.<br />From now on I will only Believe when I see it.

Meatball,<br /><br />There was always talk of a new transponder when the current ones became full.<br /><br />Of course a TV Plus technician is going to give negative and false news regarding UBI.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 26. May 2005, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: LISKI WORLD TV ]</small>

Let me explain, Sky NZ is fully contracted and has been there for years. They also have signed with Optus until 2015 (includes existing capacity plus even more on D1) like it or not this makes them the MAJOR user of B1 with some 600000 subscribers (largest amount of dishes on b1) <br /><br />The 2nd major user that it would cause the most disruption to is the Aus govt with nationwide SBS and ABC feeds for the whole Aussie digital tv system. I don't think they fibre backup to every single DTV transmission site around Australia. <br />It might be possible to fit them on C1 someplace but it would still leave a large amount of retransmission sites that need dish repoints.

There are a number of satellites belonging to a group that are available for restoration of services following failure of a satellite. I believe that Optus subscribes to the group. So if B1 dies, the restoration satellite can be drifted into into the orbital location of B1 and transfer of services can take place. Looks like D1 will be launched early 2006. This will replace B1. Have faith and may the force be with you all.

And I was watching the Movie last night "Kellys Heroes" actor Donald Sutherland keeped saying "So many negatave Vibes" Lets worry about it if it ever happens <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

The force is overlooking NZ. Lets hope B1 doesn't fall off during the Super12 finals on Saturday... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Haaaaaaaaa

Optus B1 will be replaced by Optus D1<br />Optus B3 will be replaced by Optus C1<br />Optus C1 will be replaced by Optus D2<br /><br />But that is up to the Optus Technical director as to when that has to be changed over

Yes they call it the Food Chain

LISKI WORLD TV please read:<br />Optus B1 will be replaced by Optus D1.<br />Optus C1 will not be replaced by D2, instead it will be co-located with C1 to give a wider frequency range - same as currently done with Astra, Hotbird, and others over Europe.<br />No concrete plans yet for the replacement of Optus B3.

bill_eric,<br /><br />The information I posted is from Optus Satellite

We'll see !

Liski your info is wrong<br />B3 replaced by C1? what are you saying all those C1 Customers will have to repoint to 152E.....nope<br /><br />C1 and D2 will both be at 156E<br /><br />In fact Sky NZ are installig a twin lnbf that gets 160E and 156E as backup.

Ummm...who cares?!<br /><br />Couldn't give a shit if they welded 'em all together or shot 'em into deep space!<br /><br />...waffle, waffle, waffle...<br /><br />Wrong place to be arguing over which sat goes where! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Vlad...

There were two brief interruptions to SKY’s satellite service on Monday and Wednesday evenings. Following enquiries from SKY, the operator of the B1 satellite that is used by SKY, Optus Networks Pty Limited, last night advised that the primary satellite control processor (“SCP”) on the B1 satellite has failed and that service is now being provided by the satellite’s back up SCP. <br /><br />SKY is reviewing with Optus options to provide further backup for the services in the event that the backup SCP on B1 was also to fail. <br /><br />SKY has contracted to purchase additional capacity on two new satellites from Optus, with the D1 satellite scheduled to be completed in early 2006 and the D2 satellite 18 months later.<br /><br /><br /> http://www.skytv.co.nz/index.cfm?pa...mp;dsp=nr&newsid=150&nrcontent=0 <br /><br /><br />B3 does not have much life to go ... maybe 5 more years - what might of interest is UBI and the ADF sharing a certain satellite ...<br /><br /><br />D1 will be taking over from B1 (and Optus have moved forward plans to bring it online 6 months earlier)<br /><br />Yeah its been a while since I have posted here, but hey UBI finally looks like its getting back up to speed, lets hope it does not run out of money again .. um I mean like TARBS did.<br /><br />BTW: Lisky, please don't post info about OPTUS in this forum, I'm sure that the info that was given to you was for your eyes only.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 28. May 2005, 12:52 AM: Message edited by: ruthless@oxford_falls ]</small>

Wheres New Zealand ?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ruthless@oxford_falls:<br /><strong> There were two brief interruptions to SKY’s satellite service on Monday and Wednesday evenings. Following enquiries from SKY, the operator of the B1 satellite that is used by SKY, Optus Networks Pty Limited, last night advised that the primary satellite control processor (“SCP”) on the B1 satellite has failed and that service is now being provided by the satellite’s back up SCP. <br /><br />SKY is reviewing with Optus options to provide further backup for the services in the event that the backup SCP on B1 was also to fail. <br /><br />SKY has contracted to purchase additional capacity on two new satellites from Optus, with the D1 satellite scheduled to be completed in early 2006 and the D2 satellite 18 months later.<br /><br /><br /> http://www.skytv.co.nz/index.cfm?pa...mp;dsp=nr&newsid=150&nrcontent=0 <br /><br /><br />B3 does not have much life to go ... maybe 5 more years - what might of interest is UBI and the ADF sharing a certain satellite ...<br /><br /><br />D1 will be taking over from B1 (and Optus have moved forward plans to bring it online 6 months earlier)<br /><br />Yeah its been a while since I have posted here, but hey UBI finally looks like its getting back up to speed, lets hope it does not run out of money again .. um I mean like TARBS did.<br /><br />BTW: Lisky, please don't post info about OPTUS in this forum, I'm sure that the info that was given to you was for your eyes only. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey Oxford where have you been? Liski isn't the only one that has splattered that on the net What you put above was also put by apsattv and others so its old news mate. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />