It is look like Horizon is launching Russian service.<br />My credit card was charged on 31/12/04 with sub. fees, first time after installation of box two months ago. But it doesn't seems to be scrambled yet. Although, last couple days more and more often I 'm having messages mentioning smart card.

This is the problem, how would you feal if in April<br />its still FTA and their deducting your sub of you from your credit card while everyone else is getting it free, you should have waited till it was encrypted.

Yes,Phil, you are right. And you know how to make someone happier <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> . Just joking. <br />Want to save hundred bucks now - be ready to loose ten tomorrow. We'll see what happen next.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> This is the problem, how would you feal if in April<br />its still FTA and their deducting your sub of you from your credit card while everyone else is getting it free, you should have waited till it was encrypted. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I'm worried WMI might do that too.<br />start charging when it's still FTA

Complain,! I know there are some issues going on with Irdeto2 at the moment, why should you pay when the rest are getting it free. Its not fair for the people like you that done the right thing.<br />I would wait until they encrypt before signing up. But sometimes they try to give you discount if you sign up earlier

They send out their boxes a lot faster than fixing problems :S

The new boxes supposed to fix the problems.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

FYI Horizon and TV+ will be encrypted between the 20th and 25th of Jan.<br /><br />All customers that want Russian / Balkan channels better signup now..<br /><br />Rgs

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Phil Debono:<br /><strong> Complain,! I know there are some issues going on with Irdeto2 at the moment, why should you pay when the rest are getting it free. Its not fair for the people like you that done the right thing.<br />I would wait until they encrypt before signing up. But sometimes they try to give you discount if you sign up earlier </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No I agree with the above wait for the encryption to start then sign.

Yes you maximise your viewing time.

Horizon encrypts between 15 - 25th signup now to not experience delays for installs once service is encrypted

Roll up Roll up. <br /><br />Really at the end of the day what difference is it if you sign up now or later... Being ethnic tv .. ethnic ppl always want all the water they can squeese out of a wet towel.<br /><br />I'll take the chance that i loose watching fta for 3-4 days then decide to sign up... Heck i know ppl with certain paytv companies after they have encrypted still are watchin for free!!! <br /><br />I rekon everyone take ur chances!!!

<br /> <br /> <small>[ 08. January 2005, 04:33 PM: Message edited by: night_flight ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Bedouin:<br /><strong> <br />....ppl always want all the water they can squeese out of a wet towel.<br /><br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">what an expression <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

I don't think there is any reason for rushing to subscribe now. Anyway they will charge you $99 for the box. Two months ago it was free, so there was point to subscribe than. <br />For me, even if it will be FTA for anothe couple months I won't lose anything. And all this time I haven't got headache with tarbs Box but use better Technosat one.

Satfreak....can you clarify one thing for me? If I sign up with TV+ will I still have access to all the Russian channels on PAS8 or not. And if not, is there any way to sign up to both pachages, TV+ Polish one (if and when it will have one) and Horizon TV Plus Russian package, at a cheaper price?<br />Thanks

In the future that will be possible but not just yet.<br /><br />It will possibly be extra $20 dollars either way to get both packages but these plans are some time off.<br /><br />Same for future english channels..<br /><br />Long term for $99 you will get english, russian, arabic, balkan etc but its a few months off<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />Rgs

Balkan TV will be encrypted on 20 January.The TV Plus has just received new receivers

Its been told to the forum 2nd time again...

all russian channel on Pas8 are now encrypted Irdeto 2

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> all russian channel on Pas8 are now encrypted Irdeto 2 </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">RTVI is FTA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

yep thats the only one left FTA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

does any one know the site of tv+<br />is this a company like ubi. can i have more information about it or the phone number

its plasstered all over this forum <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

They are advertising Horizon TV on RTVI. It's probably why it is still FTA.

kostya wat is the website for horizons??

thanks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I can't see any changes on their site for the last three months. No mention about encryption. I realised that it was encrypted only when I pulled card out.

delete x2 posted<br /> <br /> <small>[ 11. March 2005, 08:10 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

yeh just saw the site looks the same no updates on it

I paid for two months of service which was FTA but saved $99 for box which was free than. So we are even <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

all russian channels on PAS8 12726 H 28066 FTA at the moment

How to get these channels with STB 3100 box?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tron:<br /><strong> How to get these channels with STB 3100 box? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It has been explained earlier. Do some reading and you'll find all the details <br />(Use SEARCH function at the top right hand side of the web page)

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tron:<br /><strong> How to get these channels with STB 3100 box? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I've tried everything in the world, and no go. I think someone might have mentioned it before, but not all of the data information is sent to the STB, and therefore doesn't display the channels. If you had a REAL FTA STB then the signal would be fine, and you'd be able to watch it

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> all russian channels on PAS8 12726 H 28066 FTA at the moment </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ENCRYPTED AGAIN