this msg was posted on another forum by YUC4FG just wanted to here ppl opinions about TV PLUS holding no responsibility about any damage that could be caused on your property of any TV PLUS Equipment installed at your premises sound to me the contractors that TV PLUS hire dont have insurance<br /><br />anyway look forward to hearing your thoughts on this as i know a few installers and they all have insurance for the work they do??<br /><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/zapjevaj/TvPlusTC0.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 09. April 2005, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

And I've highlighted only a few "interesting" parts of the contract <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />Anyway, I wouldn't let them into my house to do anything if they carry no responsibility for their work.<br />And if you are a tenant, there is no way in a world that your landlord would give you a permission to install Tv+ if he read that contract <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> this msg was posted on another forum by YUC4FG just wanted to here ppl opinions about TV PLUS holding no responsibility about any damage that could be caused on your property of any TV PLUS Equipment installed at your premises sound to me the contractors that TV PLUS hire dont have insurance<br /><br />anyway look forward to hearing your thoughts on this as i know a few installers and they all have insurance for the work they do??<br /><br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/zapjevaj/TvPlusTC0.jpg" alt=" - " /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">THE WHOLE TV + IS JUST A FARSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think these are standard, industry terms and conditions. I've checked out the terms for both Optus TV and Optusnet cable, and they have exactly the same type of clauses - <br /><br />"Optus will take reasonable care not to cause any damage, Optus' installation, inspection and maintenance of the Service may cause damage to your premises. You accept the risk of any damage occurring, even if it is caused by a negligent act or omission of Optus or its employees, contractors or agents"<br /><br />I've also had a look at UBI and they have many of the standard clauses that you'll find in these types of contracts - <br /><br />"2.3 We may from time to time vary the programming of the Service or discontinue part of the Service without notice to you and without any adjustment to the Subscription Fee." <br /><br />"2.6 Under no circumstances shall we be required or obliged to make good the Premises after an installer has repaired, removed or replaced the decoder box or satellite equipment." <br /><br />"3.1 To the extent permitted by law, in no event shall we be liable for any claim by you for loss or damages including, but not limited to, claims for faulty design, damage done on connection of the decoder box, defects in the decoder box negligent or misleading advice, damages arising from loss or use of the decoder box, and any indirect special or consequential loss, damage, injury or death to any person or the property of any person and we, to the same extent limits our liability, if any, to you to the value of the decoder box and to the fullest extent permitted by law you hereby release and indemnify us and forever hold us harmless against any such claim."<br /> <br /> <small>[ 09. April 2005, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: reuder ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by reuder:<br /><strong> ..... "Optus will take reasonable care not to cause any damage, Optus' installation, inspection and maintenance of the Service may cause damage to your premises. You accept the risk of any damage occurring, even if it is caused by a negligent act or omission of Optus or its employees, contractors or agents" </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Please, Reuder, scan that part of OPTUS Contract and send it to me or post it here...please.<br />As I promised, here's a part of Optus Contract provided by Reuder:<br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/zapjevaj/OptusTC0.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 09. April 2005, 08:20 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

found it<br /><br />" While Optus will take reasonable care not to cause any damage, Optus' installation, inspection and maintenance of the Service may cause damage to your premises. You accept the risk of any damage occurring, even if it is caused by a negligent act or omission of Optus or its employees, contractors or agents and agree this Agreement supercedes the General Terms "<br /><br />http://www.optus.com.au/dafiles/WOCA/Shared/File/optus_television_terms-630.doc

I can't believe TV PLus plagiarised Optus contract terms and conditions.Very professional.

yeh they sound very similar dont they LOL

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by reuder:<br /><strong> ....."3.1 To the extent permitted by law, in no event shall we be liable for any claim by you for loss or damages including, but not limited to, claims for faulty design, damage done on connection of the decoder box, defects in the decoder box negligent or misleading advice, damages arising from loss or use of the decoder box, and any indirect special or consequential loss, damage, injury or death to any person or the property of any person and we, to the same extent limits our liability, if any, to you to the value of the decoder box and to the fullest extent permitted by law you hereby release and indemnify us and forever hold us harmless against any such claim." </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The last clause (if you read it carefully) is all about damage/loss/injury/death caused by decoder box...<br />You can find the same clause when you buy a TV Set or Hair Dryer...<br /> <br /> <small>[ 09. April 2005, 03:43 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

Anothing thing that I came across, while scanning through UBI's terms was -<br /><br />"2.3 If you wish to sell the decoder box, you must first offer to sell it back to us for our current buy back price. If we do not wish to buy back the decoder box it may only be sold or transferred to a third party by complying with the current procedure as advised by us at the time you wish to sell the decoder box."<br /><br />To my recollection, I thought UBI wasn't supplying decoders and was referring people to 3rd party suppliers. Does this mean that even though you own the decoder, UBI has final say if you can sell it or not?

what a brunch of loopers you are not<br /><br />firstly atracked TV- out therms and conditioners<br /><br />now when I can not do nothing but everything iswrong with me, you amused TV platiarised Octopus contractor therms and conditioners.<br /><br />hahaha<br /><br />my good, I feel good....<br /><br />I feel like:<br />retard<br />idiot<br />looser<br /><br /><br />why donut your sticky nose with you owing copany...<br /><br />La,la,la,... I'm in lalala-land...<br /><br />BTW, I'm not crazy, you shilly sit... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 10. April 2005, 09:02 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]</small>

How old are you Ja?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dan04:<br /><strong> How old are you Ja? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That we will never know.<br /><br /> Again all I see is abuse. For me someone should ring the Office of fair trading and find the legalities of all this. The Contractor has to have public liability insurance period and if the contractor damages your house he will have to pay the damages, Period. I don't give a fuck what company it is the Contractor has to have insurance and its the responsibility of the pay TV company to see that he has.<br />Please someone ring the dept of fair trading or in Qld its office of fair trading. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

these are compliments for you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

seems this part of the contract is now in force as BKTV has been off air for about 4 days now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/colossos83/tvplus.jpg" alt=" - " /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 19. April 2005, 04:05 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by -.Lazer.-:<br /><strong> seems this part of the contract is now in force as BKTV has been off air for about 4 days now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/colossos83/tvplus.jpg" alt=" - " /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">NO COMMENT <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Haaaa whats happens if they now lose BK.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> Haaaa whats happens if they now lose BK. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You mean BN ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Satfreak Says:<br /><br />TV Plus HAVENT LOST NTV HAYAT or ANY OTHER Channels...<br /><br />I am advised a teck has been working on the www site over the weekend.<br /><br />AND JA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TV PLUS. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">been about 2 weeks now and TV PLUS Site stil not working 100%<br /><br />I design and produce webpages for my work and it doesnt take that long for a website to be updated <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. April 2005, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

Maybe they don't want it updated

Or they have nothing to update with <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />(except taking off few channels) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />