Are you joking or is this for real.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by THE ADMIN:<br /><strong> I'm just wondering whats the go with select Tv channel line up. most of there channels are available free to air so what are they going to charge people for it or are they hoping on peoples ignorance that they don't know better.<br />I don't know if i'm in the right forum maybe this should be in the transponder watch free to air forum to post this.<br />Channels in select TV that are available free to air at no cost on other satellites. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />1/TVE ( Spanish ) FTA on Asiasat 2 and Asiasat 3<br />2/Fashion TV FTA on Asiasat 3<br />3/BBC World FTA on PAS2 and PAS8<br />4/Real Madrid TV FTA on Asiasat 2<br />5/DW-TV ( German ) FTA on Asiasat 2 and 3<br />6/Wine Network FTA on Telstar 10<br /><br />As Jerry Springer would say, Whats going on?. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">they all are FTA with c band set ups only. <br /><br />how many ppl have huge c band dishes? or how many ppl are allowed to/able to install such setups?<br /><br />select tv might be a good option for those ppl. <br /><br />I can't see anything wrong with more competition.

Nothing wrong with competition but not long ago some on this forum Mainly appsatv critised UBI for trying to sell a channel that was available FTA, now we have a company selling 6 channels that are FTA and I'm still waiting for Apsattv comment <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> or is it blind eye time for sir Appsattv because its not UBI. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> You must be fair!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ShaRp:<br /><strong> <br /><br />how many ppl have huge c band dishes? or how many ppl are allowed to/able to install such setups?<br /><br />select tv might be a good option for those ppl. <br /><br />I can't see anything wrong with more competition. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Not many people have big (C-band) dishes and the main problem is with some councils as well as neighbours. Some bastards are even complaining for a little Ku-Band dishes...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by THE ADMIN:<br /><strong> <br />1/TVE ( Spanish ) FTA on Asiasat 2 and Asiasat 3<br />2/Fashion TV FTA on Asiasat 3<br />3/BBC World FTA on PAS2 and PAS8<br />4/Real Madrid TV FTA on Asiasat 2<br />5/DW-TV ( German ) FTA on Asiasat 2 and 3<br />6/Wine Network FTA on Telstar 10<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Been reading this forum for 1 week now and I just wanted to say thank you for this piece of information as I have a german friend who was going to subscribe to selectv for DW-TV but i have told him about this information now and he is looking into getting this setup the size of this is no problem for him as a few of his chinease neighbours have these big dishes and get there chinease channels but did't know about DW-TV being FREE up there also<br /><br />regards<br />Thunder

Sometimes the complaining is done by the pay tv providers themselves.<br />But YU4CFG if its your neighbour and if you're man enough its your duty to find out who the whinger is its your dyty to tell him or her in there face that I hope you have no skeletons in your closet because I will expost them.<br />See what I have found with people is if you find out who they are and you approch them and you tell them the above in their face and they could think that this person could mean trouble or is mentally unstable. I hate dobbers and i always retaliate if I find them.<br />I have some good stories buy they will stay with me..

Good post by the Admin, yeah they seem to be slowly adding channels many of which are fta. I don't expect that Real Madrd will stay FTA for long that one aimed totally at the asian pay tv providers as soon as they sign up a few off it will go.<br /><br />Fashion TV is available for rebroadcast FREE same as Bloomberg (this one must come next?)<br /><br />Wine Network? gee very niche you shouldn't really add stuff like that until you have a core of about 50 reasonable channels.<br /><br />BBCworld costs the provider...<br /><br />as someone pointed out some people will still pay a reasonable amount for some of these channels via ku as cband isn't an option.<br /><br />If selectv were smart they would do what impactv were going to do and dedicate part of their platform as Free to air. You wouldn't complain if Fashion TV, BBCworld, Dwelle and a couple of others were FTA on Pas8 ku right?<br /><br />gee I wonder if Nasa channel will be next up.......

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> You wouldn't complain if Fashion TV, BBCworld, Dwelle and a couple of others were FTA on Pas8 ku right?<br /><br />gee I wonder if Nasa channel will be next up....... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">LOL i would't complain if they had those FTA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> If selectv were smart they would do what impactv were going to do and dedicate part of their platform as Free to air. You wouldn't complain if Fashion TV, BBCworld, Dwelle and a couple of others were FTA on Pas8 ku right?<br /> </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It would be good but I can't see it happening

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> ...YU4CFG if its your neighbour... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">No, Phil.<br />I have great neighbours and we're helping each other. But unfortunately, not everyone is lucky with it's neighbours. My friend had to get rid of his little pet Rooster because one bastard complained that the bird's song is irritating (though he's living in acreage) The same bastard has two big dogs barking all day & night but that is OK for the Caboolture council <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />PS: You know that a part of my job has been done in my garage. Late night engine tuning is a beautiful sound for my ears and my good neighbours are not complaining (except if I run out of cold beer) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br />Hey, did I mention that I've got another baby but this one is in the garage <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Wanna race? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Cheers !

Race against which one ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> The green Monaro is twice as fast than the yellow CV8 Monaro. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />My racing days are over, In the old days I got sick of racing cars I only raced bikes on rolling starts and not even a Honda 1000 could keep up to me in a straight line <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> Race against which one ?...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Your yellow CV8 vs. my red VYII-SS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />"Dry mouth... Sweaty palms...<br />...and you haven't even turned it on yet!" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by YU4CFG:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> Race against which one ?...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Your yellow CV8 vs. my red VYII-SS <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />"Dry mouth... Sweaty palms...<br />...and you haven't even turned it on yet!" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">The CV8 and the SS are the same. But the Green Monaro's not the same <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Heaps faster .<br />Tell me your a mechanic did you test the engine for piston slap before your bought it?, Most don't and if not in warranty the motor will shit itself <br />or it will turn into an OIL pump <br />Go to the LS1 forum and have a read,look for the SEARCH and type PISTON SLAP and be prepared to read for a month or two. If not fixed the rattling kills the rings and the motor uses more oils than petrol. I had my motor rebuilt at only 11000K on the clock with the latest revision pistons to stop this problem, Heaps that are buying the GEN 111 second hand don't know this and they are being sucked in because they never asked to be there to start the engine COLD The Car Yards are smart they start them up before you get there or they start them in the morning to remove the slap when cold , it takes up to 8 hrs to get the engine cold enough to test it if its rattles, Trust me I'm an expert on this matterI have close family members that work for Holden in Melbourne and I was concerned once I read below and mine failed the test. By the way around 22% of all the Gen111 from VX to late VY all fail the test and HAVE to be rebuilt.<br />Read this forum they even ran a poll on all owners of Gen111 Australia wide. Just to let you know, every Gen111 engine ever built and fitted to any VX series on any model or any VY on any model all suffer from this problem and all should have been recalled, but that would have cost super millions. Holden had a policy, only rebuild if you super complain, as all the above fail in the long run. They have had 4 revisions of pistons to fix this problem and only revision 3 and 4 have solved the problem. Revision 1 and 2 had to come in again to be replaced. Revision 4 pistons have correct tolerance pistons, revised gudgeon pin clearance, revised gudgeon pin oiling, revised oil groove clearance, location of top piston ring, different types of rings and the pistons are teflon coated. This alone only solves the problem.<br />Trust me even my 9 year old boy knows this problem ( he has heard it enought from mine or others) and I has tested a few of others to give them the good or bad news.<br /> http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=31 <br /> <br />Remember look for the SEARCH option and Type Piston Slap.<br />Also read<br /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 16. January 2006, 06:32 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<strong><br />...<br />Tell me your a mechanic did you test the engine for piston slap before your bought it?, Most don't ...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Most of buyers are not mechanics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />I've checked the car to the best of my ability and couldn't find anything suspicious. I've heard that "rattling" problem has been fixed in late models (VY-SS II) and mine has done only 18000 km by one "timid" owner. Anyway, plenty of warranty time ahead and I'll keep an eye on it.<br /><br />Clutch on VY-SS is a bit weak (in my humble oppinion) but we'll see how long it'll last in my hands (legs) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />I didn't know that you had that problem with CV8 but at least it's all good now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />I've heard a lot of good comments about Zapps Aspley mechanics and your story is another + for them.<br /><br />That's were I'll go for Holden service.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by YU4CFG:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<strong><br />...<br />Tell me your a mechanic did you test the engine for piston slap before your bought it?, Most don't ...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Most of buyers are not mechanics <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />I've checked the car to the best of my ability and couldn't find anything suspicious. I've heard that "rattling" problem has been fixed in late models (VY-SS II) and mine has done only 18000 km by one "timid" owner. Anyway, plenty of warranty time ahead and I'll keep an eye on it.<br /><br />Clutch on VY-SS is a bit weak (in my humble oppinion) but we'll see how long it'll last in my hands (legs) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />I didn't know that you had that problem with CV8 but at least it's all good now. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />I've heard a lot of good comments about Zapps Aspley mechanics and your story is another + for them.<br /><br />That's were I'll go for Holden service. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Incorrect!! Even some of the early VZ still have the problem. Read the LS1 forum. Like I said it should have been a National call up on all the VX and VY series but it would have cost them hundreds of milliions of Dollars, They're relying on peoples ignorance on this one.<br />They have to remove the Gear box first then the engine, Its a major job and it takes a full 5 days to do. Cost over $8000 per car Even the Head bolts have to be replaced.<br />YU4CFG<br />While your in the LS1 forum do a search on CLUTCHS <br />You also will need 2 days to read all the complaints about the weak clutchs I also had to get a Clutch, P/Plate and Flywheel replaced 3 weeks before the engine was done and its doing the same problem again and i've only done 1500 k on it. Mate Ive become an expert on these LS1 and the Models only because I have played with so many.<br />A Canadian problem with the engines.<br />A Australian Problem for the weak Clutchs and PP.<br />Mind you some wanted there engine replaced but when you get that all you are doing is getting a new engine with the wrong pistons.<br />I will repeat it again ALL VX and VY's have this problem and it not fixed until the pistons are replaced. So even if yours doesn't rattle yet it will at some later date. Some of the dealers have piles of dead motors to the ceiling.<br /> If your Engine has to be fixed DO NOT EXCEPT AN EXCHANGE ONE!!!!!!!!!! As for Mechanics thee the luck of the draw prevails in any shop.<br />When my clutch and PP + Flywheel was replaced they forgot to<br />1/ Reservoir cap was missing<br />2/ Bleed nipple was not tight ran out of oil by the time I got home<br />3 8 Bolts hold the Gearbox to the intermediate housing the two lowest the most importand ones were finger tight. Do I have to say more You wonder why I panicked when they had to do the engine. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

As for timid owners do a serch on the LS1 forum you will find the ones that haven't had much problems of Oil Consumption are the ones that have FLOGGED their cars from new. Work that one out. Mine Rattled and used 2 lts of oil in 3000Klms now its ok I have done around 1600k only since the rebuild and it hasen't used a drop, before the dipstick would have dropped 20mm. Also the reason why so many BLEW UP!!! They ran out of oil, It was IMPOSSIBLE to go from one oil change to another without adding a min of 1.5 to 2 ltrs of oil in 10,000k By the way some rattle and dont use oil but when the rings give up its Bye Bye time the engline becomes a Oil pump. NoW for the PCV problem. to long to type.

Sorry Select TV for overunning you thread but I had a Mysterious Phone call last night from ????? You know what I mean as you worked there Watch you Back Bud Watch you back the Idea of have an English Package only Does not go down well mate. Select I wonder how good your Contract with Panansat is. And for your 18 odd English channel package thats very good for only $30 per month thats not bad. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Last night my uncle in Greece setup a stream for me to view Eurosport the one they get to watch over there well its totally different to what we get here <br /><br />It seems the feed we get here is designed for the Asian Market only and its not the same channel as they show in Europe that why this version we get is called Eurosport World cause the one in Europe is totally different <br /><br />The one they show in our region is missing alot of things like big soccer games and all of the rest of the big sports will not be shown on Eurosport World the one we get <br /><br />So all Eurosport World shows is Sports that Pay TV, Television Networks Companies here in The Asian region dont have the rights for like winter sports, darts, some euroleague basketball games etc <br /><br />So to some it up dont be mistaken in thinking that were getting the same version of Eurosport that viewers in Europe get as were not its a totally different channel showing different things i must admit i was pretty excited when i saw it come on but not after finding this out and watching it for the past week i have lost all interest as its missing the key sports that i would of liked to see

LAZERSAT, I read you loud and clear, but is the Eurosport on I701 like the one your uncle setup you up a stream for?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by LAZERSAT:<br /><strong> Last night my uncle in Greece setup a stream for me to view Eurosport the one they get to watch over there well its totally different to what we get here <br /><br />It seems the feed we get here is designed for the Asian Market only and its not the same channel as they show in Europe that why this version we get is called Eurosport World cause the one in Europe is totally different <br /><br />The one they show in our region is missing alot of things like big soccer games and all of the rest of the big sports will not be shown on Eurosport World the one we get <br /><br />So all Eurosport World shows is Sports that Pay TV, Television Networks Companies here in The Asian region dont have the rights for like winter sports, darts, some euroleague basketball games etc <br /><br />So to some it up dont be mistaken in thinking that were getting the same version of Eurosport that viewers in Europe get as were not its a totally different channel showing different things i must admit i was pretty excited when i saw it come on but not after finding this out and watching it for the past week i have lost all interest as its missing the key sports that i would of liked to see </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Haaa Yes and in my Phone call last night that also was in my discussion. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Muazb:<br /><strong> LAZERSAT, I read you loud and clear, but is the Eurosport on I701 like the one your uncle setup you up a stream for? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Don't know man i cant see the one on I701 if someone on here has it they can compare it with the one on PAS8 then see<br /><br />It might be the same one on PAS8 as LBF are selling it to Australia now<br /><br />The one on I701 has only French Audio BTW no english soundtrack

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Muazb:<br /><strong> LAZERSAT, I read you loud and clear, but is the Eurosport on I701 like the one your uncle setup you up a stream for? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It wasn't but now I would say so. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I would say the content will improve once they sign the channel to some major pay providers in the region.<br /><br />If they sign with some main provider like , Multichoice,Dream, Foxtel, Sky NZ etc then they will have income $$ to purchase rights of some of the bigger events for Asia/Pacific region.

But will they!!

Foxtel didt want to invest in Setanta why would they invest in Eurosport?? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><strong>...So even if yours doesn't rattle yet it will at some later date...<br /><br />...As for Mechanics thee the luck of the draw prevails in any shop.<br />When my clutch and PP + Flywheel was replaced they forgot to<br />1/ Reservoir cap was missing<br />2/ Bleed nipple was not tight ran out of oil by the time I got home<br />3 8 Bolts hold the Gearbox to the intermediate housing the two lowest the most importand ones were finger tight...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">My engine is OK. Sounds healthy. (Touch wood)<br />If something goes wrong, I'll be all over Holden until it's fixed.<br />But, I can't start fixing something which is not broken... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />And, regarding the mechanics who forget to tight nipples on the brakes, etc, are they also working at Zapps Aspley? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Zapps you mean Zupps?<br />Yes Zupps fixed my clutch and thank Whoever that Mechanic didn't fix my engine otherwise shit knows what he would have left out.<br />When I got the car home I put it on stands and Checked from the diff to the front grill, I only found the rubber boot on the Alternator covering the + terminal to fitted incorrectly.<br /> As for the Pistom Slap most don't even know what to listen to and when at what throttle position for how long with a stop watch . I hope that helps because this catches the ones that don't understand.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by P Debono:<br /><strong> ... you mean Zupps?<br />Yes Zupps fixed my clutch and thank Whoever that Mechanic didn't fix my engine otherwise shit knows what he would have left out.<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Zupps, it was a typo. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br /><br />That "mech" should not work with the cars, I wouldn't let him even to clean the tyres. If you were driven your car for 10 min. longer you'd completely lost your brakes and God knows what would be the outcome. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> <br /><br />Did you told them about it?<br /><br />Rattling usually can be heard between idle (cold) and 1500 rpm (hot)<br />Of course, there is much more to it but it's too mechanical for the thread (Sorry Admin) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Well take it too the Mechanical forum the Monaro Forum for your talk but for this problem with these Engines its a Major Issue I had Phil check my sister Calais which the Holden dealer said it was ok but Phil said no its not that bad but not good either. she took the car to the dealer and told them don't start it until Phill arrives next morning and within 2 minutes it was booked in to be rebuilt. The LS1 forum is a good forum but only the priviledged become Valadated and if you are Valadated you are allowed in the hidden Private forums and there is where the action is and its not easy to become valadated. And of course Phil is Valadated the A.R.S.E But again like Phil and other say what is quiet for you and the Holden Dealers that have been told to knock them back fails for some.<br />They all should have been replaced, Phil had a great Photo collection of the old and the new pistons and all the other mods that he had done while the motor was appart, They won't forget him in a hurry. The way I look at it as long as you have the failed pistons in the engine you will never sleep. Aren't you a friend og Phil you know he had an LS1 and was involved with cars? just because you're a mechanic by the look at it you should have asked someone else. YU4CFG, this is the second time you have stuffed up, the UBI box was the last debarkle. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> I would have asked before buying it. Ask Phil what happenes if you ever want to trade it in. shit!!!!!!!!!!!! to long to type. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by musicman:<br /><strong>...the UBI box was the last debarkle. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">DEBARKLE? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <br /><br />Forgive me, English is my second language, and I am not sure the meaning of that word.<br />I don't know if you're mechanic too and I do not care about your opinion even if you are a mech. I was talking with Phil and I've asked him a few questions. I don't remember asking you for advice.<br /><br />If you'd like me to remind everybody on the forum what happened to my receiver, I'll be happy to do it, just for you.<br /><br />Phil knows that I provided road assistance for the best cars you can buy in this country (under factory warranty) and you'd be amazed how many of them dies on Brisbane roads every single day.<br /><br />C'mon, mate, ENJOY, life is too short <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Hmmm... I wonder what do you drive... Go-go mobile, or Ford? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

DEBARKLE is DEPART of DEBELT that hold up DEPANTS of DEBONO<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I think he meant "debacle" which means a massive failure, a defeat, a collapse.

Thinks quietly to himself about saying the obvious, but doesn't <br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Hi Phil, a bit obscure ..... I don't recall ever working for ?????? ......<br /><br />The PanAmSat agreement is good, we've found that the trick with PAS is to pay your bills on time, then they are very helpful (an epiphany for some).

Well it proved my point that you read this forum.

Happier to listen than talk, but some stuff is sooooo far wrong....... Not sure where Apsattv gets his info, but its very dodgy.<br /><br />Still don't know who ?????? is ......

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Thinks quietly to himself about saying the obvious, but doesn't <br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Spit it out Craig, you have nothing to fear.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by SelecTV:<br /><strong> Happier to listen than talk, but some stuff is sooooo far wrong....... Not sure where Apsattv gets his info, but its very dodgy.<br /><br />Still don't know who ?????? is ...... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Which info would that be?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Muazb:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> Thinks quietly to himself about saying the obvious, but doesn't <br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Spit it out Craig, you have nothing to fear. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">"I think he meant "debacle" which means a massive failure, a defeat, a collapse."<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />nothing furthur needs to be said! read between the lines..<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by apsattv:<br /><strong> I think he meant "debacle" which means a massive failure, a defeat, a collapse."<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br /><br />nothing furthur needs to be said! read between the lines..<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">LOL... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />