Yes Cathy you were dead right but lets face it you had a head start having a Brother as a Lawyer.
Is it possible for any Lawyer in QLD to not have had bad dealing with DOCS.? No (For ones that don't know DOCS is Department of Child Safety)

just i wanted to ask 1 more thing helen why did your Sister do that sorry to say but thats pure EVIL that was an upseting story

I would like to comment about Child Safety and the problems we had with them.
My sister works or better still use to work for Child Safety in QLD and approximately four years ago we had a fall out because of our children and she put the department of child safety onto us.
What happened to us was unbelievable as one afternoon we get a knock on the door I open the door and there were two young ladies to greet me but for me not knowing one was a Police officer from the child police called JAB and the other was a officer from the department of child safety or as some call them child safety.

I invited them in as we did not know what it was all about but within minutes they took one by one our children to one of the bedrooms and interviewed them and as a single mother of four with my husband that was deceased one year earlier I was about to get a shock of my life what was going on.

See my sister via another person that she knew put a complaint in that I was abusing my children which I wasn't the Police and the child safety officer interviewed me, shocked me with the lies that came out of her mouth and within minutes I had my four children removed from my house all because of a false allegation started by the venomous mouth of my sister all because we had a fall out because of our children fighting.
I won't get into detail but I lost my Children for two years, It cost my father over $11,000 in legal fees to prove in a court of law that there never was child abuse of any kind.
Did I ever get a apology? NO, Did my sister ever be bought to justice for what she did? NO! reason, she was protected by the child safety act 1999.
The author of this thread is so correct, the public today have not got a clue how powerful child safety is today, and I believe that they are above the law as do you ever hear of any of them being bought to justice because example my sister lied to have children removed. Do you the public know whats it like? it bad enough I lost my husband a year earlier but to lose my children all because of a bitch of a sister that failed twice to join the police service so she decide to join child safety to ruin people lives.
The department of child safety today have too much power and I have to agree to what you say and what I was told by my lawyer that you will meet some of the most arrogant people on the earth and you are correct, they're all women.
By the way they need no evidence whatsoever to do this.

Helen
Good to hear from you and as one that has been abused by the Department Of Child Safety I can say that my Children are still at home only because I involved other professional people and NO they weren't lawyers and they assisted us to tackle these monsters.
Actually most of the people that I have spoken to over the internet that have been ripped apart by docs have been Women and some of the stories are very sad even one simple case were a young baby broke her hand while falling out of a bassinet and the quacks at the Hospital suspected the mother or father broke the arm and without any evidence the STORM TROOPERS Charge through their house removing all the children.
I don't know the full story but one day maybe I will find out but the main problem with DOCS is today is once they're at your door you virtually have to lick their arse in everything and if you STAND up to them which most parents would do this will be the end of you not unless you're ready for an expensive dirty fight with them.

Seriously i don't get why those dumbbums do that ? they Should BURN IN HELL

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I think it would be a good idea to have a poll to see what office's get the most complaints against them but my opinion is most today would be too scared to join any forum regarding these type of matters..
Do you know how many new members have joined and not posted yet? Can they poll but not post?.

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Others that have posted don't have issues personally with DOCS.

I have just been reading through this post regarding peoples' comments on DoCS Qld. (And in some cases - other States).

Though I understand the anger and resentment that these individuals feel at having their children stolen by the Dept, I am concerned at the way they deal with the situation.

I firmly believe that the Dept wants families to become angry and bitter and vengeful etc because then they can USE THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOUR shown by parents AS AN EXCUSE TO FURTHER HARASS AND PERSECUTE THEM.

As families undergoing child protection investigations and so on, we need to be very careful how we relate to the Dept. I believe there is a far better outcome through being civil, polite, assertive, professional and so on. I know this is hard at times, particularly if the DoCS workers are not showing the same attitudes, but for the sake of your case and the emotional security of your children it is vitally important.

We as parents need to fight for a change of attitude from the Department. Often this means changing our attitudes first. (Even if we hate the idea!) I am not talking about giving in!!!!!!
No, I'm talking about exerting our rights as parents and demanding that the Department, the Foster Care Agencies, the Foster Parents and ourselves WORK IN PARTNERSHIP.

PARTNERSHIP - yes the word sounds frightening, particularly when applied to DoCS, but this I firmly believe is the way of the future if we WANT TO SEE POSITIVE CHANGES IN THE WAY CHILD
PROTECTION WORKS IN AUSTRALIA.

Partnership brings about positive results and its good for the kids. They are after all, the most important people in the whole DoCS vs parents issue.

Please don't think I am pro DoCS, or crazy. I too have had negative dealings with DoCS (NSW). My son is still in care due to the terrible things that DoCS did at Court and to us. But I am now in a position where I am working very hard to build better relationships with all that are involved in my son's case - Foster Agency, Foster Carers, and yes DoCS as well. MY SITUATION (AND THAT OF MY SON) IS ACTUALLY IMPROVING BECAUSE OF THIS.
Now I am being invited by Child Protection Agencies, including DoCS equivalents in other States, to come and talk to their workers about important issues such as - Working with parents; how it feels to be a parent in the Child Protection system and how to best work in Partnership together.

This is a first for parents like us - to actually be listened to and not written of as "dead beat" parents as one politician so charmingly described us!!
I also had the opportunity to speak at a National Child Welfare Conference about the Parent Perspective in Child Protection, by telling my own story and stressing the importance of working with parents in Partnership and not against them. And yes, there were DoCS workers, Foster Care Agencies and Legal Representatives at this meeting. TALK ABOUT POWER 4 PARENTS!!! Now it is actually happening.

Sorry for the long posting, but please consider what I have said.

If you do have problems with anger and dealing with DoCS, and it is affecting your life - please seek counselling. Often our anger at DoCS is more about grief and loss than actually all out anger. Losing a child to DoCS is a horrible experience and of course we are all going to have strong emotions about this. If we lost our child due to death - there would be lots of support and compassion, but when it is through DoCS we get no support, only the labels of - child abuser, you deserve it, "dead beat" parent and so on. What a horrible thing to do to someone, particularly if their child's removal was due to circumstances that were not child abuse or deliberate neglect.

If you would like to discuss your situation, want some information on Court Processes or tips on how to work with DoCS please consider calling the Family Inclusion Network (FIN - NSW) on 0450 521 610.
This organisation has been specifically set up (by parents and supportive professionals) to assist parents with kids in out-of-home care or at risk of losing kids into care because of DoCS. It is not run by DoCS! There are also branches in Qld, WA, ACT and SA. Victoria is hoping to start one soon. There is also a National FIN organisation called FIN Australia which all State Branches belong to.
Please email me if you want more info.
Regards
Jenmaz
Parent Representative on the Board for FIN-NSW,
State Representative for FIN Australia, and most important of all a parent with a child in out-of-home care.

You sound like a decent person to be caught up with this Docs stuff but the way I look at it even the most decent person in Australia would become an animal if they were accused of false child abuse and have their children taken off them.
Well thats the way I look at it, I could not ever want to be in a position and I would not know how I would ever re-act if this happened to me because of a nut case putting a false accusation in, then you have one of these family services blowing it out of proportion only making it worst.

As families undergoing child protection investigations and so on, we need to be very careful how we relate to the Dept. I believe there is a far better outcome through being civil, polite, assertive, professional and so on. I know this is hard at times, particularly if the DoCS workers are not showing the same attitudes, but for the sake of your case and the emotional security of your children it is vitally important.
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When is the poll going up? I know what office i will be voting for

I can't wait to see what office wins with the displeasure of being the most hated docs office.
I just wonder maybe a FOI document might help.