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I have sought to stay positive in my pursuit of understanding the spirit realm cheerful because I believe that what I think and intend is what I will experience, and I prefer happy vs. sad, and interesting vs. scary. I also feel that everything, if truly understood, is no longer valued good or bad, but as adhering to its own agenda. And if one entity's agenda conflicts with another entity's agenda, that is when it seems "bad" one to the other.

A good example that came to me yesterday due to my recent experiences is... a virus. If it hurts or threatens our lives, a virus seems "bad". Though the virus itself is not intrinsically bad and is only going about its own agenda trying to survive and reproduce, it is opportunistic. And, krank it doesn't mean we want to welcome it. no

I have recently had two remembered episodes with "opportunistic" spirit entities. Both occurred during a shallow level of sleep.

The first episode happened about a month ago. As I fell asleep, I stated my intention to learn and explore the greater reality as I often do. And I have had some very interesting and enriching experiences by asking to interact with helpful entities. This particular night, I perhaps worded it wrong (but I did indeed learn from the experience, and that is what I was after). dunno I tried to be creative so I said I would like to communicate with someone and that I would let "the source" decide who. To this I clairaudiently heard, "Splendid", but it was more like Mr. Burns saying "Excellent". hmm

Trusting as I do, I drifted to sleep and I proceeded to have an experience that was somewhat unpleasant. I found myself outside the house by my neighbour's rose garden in a reality that looked identical to waking reality. In fact, it was dark outside and every detail was precise. I even noticed the stones that lined the garden and all the details of the grass and glow of the street light. I had this vision of a featureless little entity. He was basically all white and as if modeled from clay. His image was represented as sitting on a modeled, throne-like chair. He proceeded to manipulate me in a sexual manner blush upon which I woke up feeling rather violated. freaked

The second episode happened when I fell asleep yesterday. It was virtually the same type of incident. But this time it took place inside the house, in the bathroom, and it was so realistic that when I was finally awake in full consciousness, I could have sworn that I had already been up and had actually walked to the bathroom earlier. I even remember vividly looking into the mirror and all of the details of the room. This time I did not see the entity, nor had I made any requests for interactions, but I experienced the same type of manipulation and feeling of sexual violation.

As I analyzed the experience, I received the word "incubus". I intellectually knew it was a word connected with demon, but as always, I looked it up for the precise definition and found it quite fitting: "an incubus (plural incubi) is a demon in male form that lies upon sleepers, especially women, with intent of sex...experienced as if in a dream".

After the first encounter, I was prompted to defeat any fear I felt in falling back to sleep (mostly I just felt yucky tongue ), by opening myself up and allowing the fear to dissolve into my strength, becoming diluted and thus gone. [Linked Image] It was an excellent technique. I imagine this sounds strange, all of it, but this is a fairly straight-forward glimpse into my mind and an example of my experiences. [Linked Image]

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Thanks Alisa for sharing this personal experience with us, you are one gutsy lady! [Linked Image]

From my perspective, one has to be very careful indeed of what one says and thinks and does, as there is always an opportunistic 'something' lurking around to take advantage of a situation, and maybe pose as something they are certainly not.

I realise your perspective is different from mine somewhat, so I am certainly not going to tell you what I 'think' you should do. But, I urge caution and always question everything in that sphere.

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hug Thanks, for all of that, Chris valentine, especially for realizing that it was rather embarrassing to reveal. [Linked Image]

I've been pretty open to experiences, as much as my consciousness can handle (which is still only a wee fraction of what is going on), and I have had only a few "bad" experiences, most of which I realized later were misunderstandings on my part. But this time, I don't think so. suspicious

And thanks for your concern. highfive I went ahead and made a statement/boundary that this experience is not welcome to repeat.[Linked Image]

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Oppertunistic... Never thought of it like that before.

I used to have an 'oppertunistic' spirit in my old bedroom, in my old house, thats if some spirits can feed off fear. The presence in there at night was stronger then anything I've ever felt, even to this day. Like a feeling so dence, it was pushing on you from all sides, and it felt red hot, and I could feel it watching me, waiting. The feeling even had a sound, though you heard it through your soul, not your ears.

And most of my dreams in that room where of the undead chasing me, and if I had any friends with me, they'd dissapear after a while. Or shortly after the dream had begun its 'scary stage.'

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Great descriptions, OMJ. thumbup I appreciate learning from your experiences. The spirit in your old bedroom sounds powerfully oppressive. gloom

I used to have lots of dreams of being chased. chase One dream in particular that comes to mind was of being chased by Freddy Krueger. I was scared of Freddy and the various horror movie icons of the time. I used to be unable to watch scary movies until my husband sorta made me watch them when I was nearly 30. By coaxing me to watch them and sitting through them with me, I desensitized and actually began seeking out the scariest movies I could find, just to see how I could sit through them and laugh. chuckle

Anyway, back to the dream. I was running through a large house from my childhood. No matter where I hid Freddy knew where I was or would find me. The nightmare went on and on until I grew so tired of being afraid that I went to the window on an upper level and jumped out. I fell to the ground with a splat. Then I woke up. (So much for the theory I once heard that if you hit the ground in a dream you die). dunno

These chasing dreams occurred regularly for me in the past. They occur very rarely now, if ever. For me I think it is because I faced my fears by watching horror movies, and then I started learning to face my fears in dreams and reality as much as possible because they otherwise stayed alive or grew.

I remember when I first learned that facing fears erased or minimized them...it was in a dream. During this dream some women moved in across the street from my little house. One of them was huge and very menacing-looking (Amazon woman comes to mind). scaredtwitch She would glare at me aggressively whenever I looked outside. She stomped around and seemed to be waiting for me to leave the house. I was petrified. Finally, I walked out the front door and decided to confront her, even if it meant my demise. She came stomping out toward me and I walked toward her. The closer we got, the smaller she became. She went from about 8 feet tall to 3 feet tall by the time I reached her. She swung her little fists out at me, but I laughed as she was actually no threat at all. elf2

These days, fear is a "red flag" to alert me that something is there for me to face and conquer. samurai Though admittedly, I have not had to deal with an oppressive spirit location like your old bedroom. unsure

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Thanks. I tried my best. thumbsup

The spirit in the bedroom was, you might even go at leangth and call it 'evil' yikes

You dream sounds scary enough. I once had a dream I was being chased by a huge worm-like maggot which was larger then a house, though it followed me underground, and any buildings I ran into, it collapsed them, though I always landed away from the rubbel to run on. I also once had a dream that saddam hussein had died, his zombie managed to get onto the moon, and has cursed earth in his wrath to make the undead rise, and the moon to paulse red now and then. I only found this out when a group of bikers picked me up, and their leader showed it to me on a screen on the fuel tank. crazy

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What an awesome dream, OMJ! ahha Fascinating imagery. Imagination doesn't seem a strong enough word for it! Your dream reminds me so much of my own dreams. AND of a classic moment from Pee Wee Herman in his "Big Adventure" when he was asked if he had any dreams, and he said, "Yeah, I'm all alone. I'm rolling a big doughnut and this snake wearing a vest..." hysterical

I need to start a topic on dreams. I love dreams. cloud

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hi all just wanted to share a little something with you that is a little scary to me but it is a very true part of my life and happened to me at a very young age, this all hapened at a home that belong to my grandfather,on my fathers side my mother and i always were home alone while my dad was out , this stuff started as soon as he left for the night the air got so thick you could cut it with a knife. my mom and i would go to her bed as soon as the house came alive as id like to put it the presents in that house new we new it was there and it did all it could to intemidate us while we were alone. it would hold us down and not let us out of the bed at all and the voices we as in latin or speaking in toungs for a better way of putting it i was around 10 or 11 years old and i will never forget it the house was unreal, it new when my father was on his way home because it would calm it self and it all would go away all at once and within ten to fifteen mins. my dad would come home EVERY TIME..my father dose not belive in any of this ..? i wounder if that has anything to do with it leaving right before he came home? well need i say more happend at that house before we had the chance to move like i was at school and my mom was home alone and she said she was thinking to her self that she realy needed blinds for the windows and the next day a lady came to the front door and said to my mom here are the blinds you wanted for your windows.. creepy.. how in the hell did this woman know what my mom was thinking this lady was a neighbor and i sware she was a witch.. my mom about pissed herself when this happend..well we moved back here to ohio in a old fam house and this house was the haunted house of the block a man died in his bed there an it took a week to get him out due to the dogs that would not let anyone in to get him, 2 people were found killed exucutioner style in addic that had been naild shut from yhe inside and the same thing happend once my dad left, onl there was one voice that stood out over them all a man voice like at a gathering only of dead people there was an old tunnel under the house that led out into the feild it was impassable but we whent as fare as we could. i seen a tall man like black cloke thing through the addict window that could not open naild inside so we put a 30 foot latter up to the window to see in he was holding a book or something he was reading from head bowed till it sall me then raised its head butt no face could i see. arms out front holding somthing as it looked down as to be reading it? then the chairs would move around when we first moved in dad and mom whent to kroger store and i was there all alone and somting said my first name out loud twice, no-one home but me it was a place of pure evil im sure of this ... since then i havent had that feeling of badness till i took the picture of my sister-nkaws trailer home with the green thing next to her home.. i dont know what it is butt its a real bad place that needs blessed or somthing? i have been a toy for ghost and bad spirits eversence ive been a littel girl.. oh yeah in that house of my granfathers in flordia voices kept telling me to kill my parents at night .. no i didnt do it an i did tell my mom this years latter thats my story to share with all thats into this crazy stuff .. ithink that there are those of us that are more linked to this relm than others and some of us are intuned with the dark side more than others or is the dark side tuned to certian ones like myself more than even we would like to have?

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Wow, this is rather heavy stuff we have here!

I have no direct experience of such occurences.
It all sounds rather 'darkside' to me.

Why do you think you seem to be more 'intune' with the darkside as opposed with the 'lightside' [Linked Image]


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well i dont know maybe cause the darkside wants to be seen or just feel like they are alive agin i dont like the fact that they seem to be more intune with me than i want but i guess some people may have a inter link with such things,even if they choose not to, you cant stop what is ment to be..i think god gives certain people gifts and its up to us to use it or not and how we use the gift is up to us .. ive always wanted to have a gift to beable to find missing people or help with the dead to get their message out.i know what i see and hear,and i have seen and heard things from a very young age so god alows me this gift and the gift isnt always good but its not always bad, about even on that.. i guess not all is good in people so when they die there left here till christ comes to sort them out, and there not a good thing so they haunt what they can as long as they can? the devil has his own demons that he allows to walk and terroise all it can .. guess ill know the true answer why once i see god..or when im dead? well guess we all will see then...

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Thanks, Lizard! I appreciate your openness and willingness to share your personal spirit experiences! yes

It does sound like you have the abilities you desired, to interact with spirits. ghost

When I watch TV shows about ghost hunting and mediums communicating with the deceased, I often wonder if, when something scary happens, it isn't just the spirit merely trying to make contact and the investigator's fearful interpretation. Bumps, bangs, and even pebble throwing may be the entity just trying to make itself known as requested. dunno

I have had a few experiences myself that were so confronting that it scared me to the bones, but later when I evaluated it, I realized it was just my reaction to the unfamiliar experience and my fear of the unknown.

My first such experience a few years ago was when I asked to "meet" my spirit guide (to verify that such an entity exists). That night as I tried to fall asleep, I had this nagging feeling that someone was standing by my bed. Of course my rational mind was brushing it off. But then as I relaxed just before falling asleep, a finger reached out and touched me on the forehead filling the inside of my skull with a brilliant red light! I saw it from many different angles, as if I was outside of my body and in it at the same time. I instantly screamed due to the shock, and even as I came to full waking consciousness I still saw the red light for a few more seconds.

I was frightened out of my skin, and yet my intellect reasoned with me that I had requested this experience, and that there was nothing in it except unfamiliarity to suggest that I should be afraid or that it was negative.

I ended up gingerly repeating this experiment a few times over the course of a few months, as my courage allowed paranoid , and each time I asked to experience my guide, I received some sort of physical contact that scared the bejeezus out of me, and yet was actually quite fascinating and what I had asked for.



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