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reuder #32572 Mon 05 Mar 2007 06:51:AM
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I'm not really surprised that DM Sat were not aware of this.

You should direct your feedback to the broadcaster.

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The only things LIVE on Pink etc are usually the morning shows. To have that delayed to coincide with morning in Australia is stupid. How many people watch TV in the mornings compared to afternoon/primetime?

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Pink Extra, DM Sat, A1 Plus, Pink Plus are now all Encrypted

BHT and BK TV are Free-To-Air

BN TV has disappeared completly...... doesn't load up anymore hhhmmm... ?

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All TV Plus channels now encrypted

BN only FTA now

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I think it's safe to add Pink Extra on the delayed telecast list!

All channels have disappeared except, BN, Pink Extra (on delay) and BHT.

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This just keeps getting better and better hahahaha

What a mess there channels look like Crap! there on delay there not on all the time and people have to pay $65 a month ontop of all this LOL... Brilliant haha

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You would think if they were broadcasted on tape the picture quality would it be at least better than it is.

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What I find really funny is that according to TVPlus the delayed telecasts are in response to customer feedback, yet no other operator IN THE WORLD does it. I don't see Optus doing it to their foreign channels, I don't see UBI doing it, I don't see WMI doing it, I don't see Globecast doing it, I don't see Dish Network doing it.
No other provider in the world does it, you gotta ask yourself why is TVPlus? Surely the other LARGER providers would've done it by now if it was what customers wanted!

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reuder,

The problem is that the actual broadcasters don't even know that TV Plus are actually doing this so called 'tape delay' broadcast.

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Since when does TV Plus listen to customers feedback ???

If they did listen they would of fixed the various other problems TV Plus hasent fixed yet main one the PICTURE quality actually being watchable so people could actually watch the channels and not go blind with all the pixeals and distortion in the picture is not watchable at all on most channels...

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Originally Posted by reuder
Does anyone have someone overseas who has access to LIVE BK and DM who would be able to tell us what's on, so we could compare it to our programming in Australia?


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I dont know what picture quality do you get in Australia.
These snapshots are from their Europe feeds:

A1+ @ Intelsat 10-02 (544 x 576),BKTV (352 x 576) & BHT 1 @ Hot Bird (704 x 576) & BN (480 x 576) and DM @ W2 (480x576).

Bit rate varies from 1.8 MBPS for BKTV to 3.7 MBPS for BHT 1.


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Originally Posted by LAZERSAT
Since when does TV Plus listen to customers feedback ???

You can say the same thing about UBI....

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Makedon,

Please explain? I believe your complaint was looked into and resolved.

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Makedon,

Please explain? I believe your complaint was looked into and resolved.

How long did it take???? 6mths at most!! but I do agree it's alot better then before...

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still better then TV Plus's 2 years+ and stil goin LOL smile

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FYI

DM SAT & BKTV are now broadcasted aprox 30 minutes behind the European Transmission

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now what is the excuse for that what could be the benefit of a 30min delay???

why not just broadcast the LIVE Signal whats the point of the 30mins

Can't wait to hear this one.... LOL

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Originally Posted by LAZERSAT
Since when does TV Plus listen to customers feedback ???


Seems somebody is listening to feedback...

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if you did listen make signal LIVE and fix the picture so it is watchable ????

and I dont see anyone here agreeing with the tape delay of channels...

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Originally Posted by LAZERSAT
now what is the excuse for that what could be the benefit of a 30min delay???

why not just broadcast the LIVE Signal whats the point of the 30mins

Can't wait to hear this one.... LOL


Exactly! I see no point in a 30 minute delay! Why would you bother?

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It must be all that Customer Feedback reuder hahahaha LOL ....

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Originally Posted by asen
Originally Posted by reuder
Does anyone have someone overseas who has access to LIVE BK and DM who would be able to tell us what's on, so we could compare it to our programming in Australia?


@ reuder

I dont know what picture quality do you get in Australia.
These snapshots are from their Europe feeds:

A1+ @ Intelsat 10-02 (544 x 576),BKTV (352 x 576) & BHT 1 @ Hot Bird (704 x 576) & BN (480 x 576) and DM @ W2 (480x576).

Bit rate varies from 1.8 MBPS for BKTV to 3.7 MBPS for BHT 1.


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Thanks asen for that! The picture quality isn't perfect, but in comparison to TVPLUS those caps are HD TV! There is just sooo much pixelation on TVPLUS it's not funny, I'm not making this up.

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No pixelation at all on the feeds here in Europe.
Only the contrast is not good and the picture is bleary on BKTV and DM due to low resolution and low Bit Rate.

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Have TVPLus improved the quality of their feeds? I have recently been away and noticed upon my return that the quality of the picture has improved dramatically.

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Originally Posted by balkancic
Have TVPLus improved the quality of their feeds? I have recently been away and noticed upon my return that the quality of the picture has improved dramatically.


Hmmm, dunno. I guess when you watch it all the time, you sort of get used to it. It might've improved but only slightly, the pixelation is still VERY noticable.

I should also mention, we have DMSAT and BK LIVE, as far as i can tell.

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All channels down except BHT and BN. Been down for a day or two now.

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Excellent smile lol haha

Keep up the good work TV Plus your doing great!!! hahaha smile

Who bets that the channels will go on Delay again after they come back on air LOL

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Originally Posted by LAZERSAT
Excellent smile lol haha

Keep up the good work TV Plus your doing great!!! hahaha smile

Who bets that the channels will go on Delay again after they come back on air LOL


SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Do not give them ideas! Although, it does seem likely, why else are the channels down?

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Originally Posted by reuder
All channels down except BHT and BN. Been down for a day or two now.


An update on the situation, all channels back since Friday midnight.

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when i first viewed PINK EXTRA there was no sound then after at 10.00 at night the sound came back

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then it cut off
it was encripted

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WHY DONT THEY LISTEN thinking

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so night flight what do u have UBI ???

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I have nothing I am a poor student!

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so what do your parents have
TV PLUS

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nothing

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OH SO DID U HAVE TV PLUS ALONG TIME AGO

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Originally Posted by reuder
Originally Posted by night_flight
yeah I d understand that if MAYBE bn was on tape delay but for music videos i d be pissed off to send sms and who knows when it gets on tv and those sms are shit expensive $4/sms..even if it is on tape delay do we have to see the same tape 2 nights in a row? I dont get some things...dunno bn sat for instance repeats during the week some talk shows in different times so each time zone kinda gets to see it during daylight which i think is GREAT if u are really into one show then wake up and watch if not you can always catch up with it 2 days later when it ll b repeated in something more sensible (aust time).
I mean ppl do have video recorders anyway (if not some even have dvd (or hard drive) recorders these days)...
In conclusion I d like tv to be LIVE smile


Totally agree night_flight! BN/PINK etc understand that their channels are broadcast in different timezones all around the world (they didn't come down in the last shower), and that's why their programming has been organised in 8 (or is it 6) hour blocks, so eventually, everyone will have seen a show in a reasonable timeslot.
We want to watch what's live, LIVE! Simple as that. There haven't been any problems in the past when Tarbs was around, I think this is just a cost cutting exercise disguised as 'a request due to customer feedback'.
because the guy told me the timezones r terablile thats why they delay abit?

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