Only a idiot would think that his or her phone is private after all did all watch the news the other nite.
Starting next year the police will have unlimited powers in phone tapping here in qld

Queensland is slowly become a Nazi state.
I bet this Department of Child safety would like to get these powers.
And as for the poll it will be interesting I would say.

Found this today.
http://au.messages.yahoo.com/news/localnews-qld/12003/
Just one of the many found on the internet.

Well I hate Govt Dept...I knew it was going to be child safety, just my severe hate for them gave the clue away...you sounded just like me in your posts so that was obvious too...

Anyway update on my case, I fought it on my own, came to hearing and the magistrate wouldn't grant their 2 year order but instead ordered the dept to reunify over the next few months. The hearing only lasted 1 hour the most and I only got to question 2 officers but it was fun, especially when I jammed them for every lie they displayed with the truth back at them...they couldn't answer nothing straight and had their famous excuse of "That's not my job" or "I'm unaware of this" or "it's not in my notes". Absolutely pathetic but I didn't go in finding answers just to display the truth b/c be the day they were taking my kids for 2 years over their hypocritical lies...my children have severely suffered while in care due to the separation from us as parents and have told Dchs and Children's Commission they have never been abused, felt scared or threatened by us but absolutely safe with us! You think anyone listened? Of course not.

Anyway still have a fight to go but have backed off while the order is still being sort of abided by reunification wise.

The other bit of advise, is when parents get socially assessed by Social workers (part of the court procedure) watch for the diagnosis of possible mental illness to make the case for the dept and also it prevents legal aid for the parent which is why I ended up having to fight my own case and also proving I didn't have this so-called mental illness.

The dept may not need actual evidence to prove their so-called claim but they do if their is evidence to prove they lied and then they have to have burden/onus of proof from there on in!

LovingMyKids
you're so correct in saying that I sounded like you
but the problem is after speaking to others on this and other forums the others sound like me so if this is the case we all sound the same.
But being in a position to speak to a few and we have over 150 members that I suspect have joined this forum against DOCs and a few have PM'ed me asking when I'm going to start the poll the one question I asked them was.
DID THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILD SAFETY OFFICERS IN ANY WAY LIE!!
Well you guessed it I don't remember the exact amount but most of them answered YES.
This question why they lie bothers me and it rings in my head till today, I have asked my lawyer this a hundred times this question why do they do this why do they blatantly lie to either set someone up or to inflame the situation and after my mess is over I want some answers and if I don't get them from this country I will look elsewhere. NOT SAYING MORE!!!There is a saying in the English Language "Quote" ITS WHO YOU KNOW NOT WHAT YOU KNOW

Do you know anybody today can be dragged out of their house by cops because someone complains about you being mad even if you're not!!
DOCS use it, all they need is a JP to sign it and presto you're out of your house.
You're correct its a DOCS ploy to discredit you in anyway so you don't get your kids back.
How pitiful.

The thing about JP's signing that bit of paper that had you taken out of your house was in the papers a month or so ago, also it was shown on today tonight not long after.

I have a mate that's in the shit with child safety up in townsville as I type this and I will be seeing him this weekend. I will give him the link of this site so he can join and get a hoard of others in townsville to follow suit.

My new girlfriend has read this and she told me to tell you that you have guts girl to take child safety on by yourself.
Tell me how many lawyers appeared on their side? or did they just turn up by themselves.
I though CSA was bad enough as I had to pay child maintenance for a child for years that wasn't even mine.

Loving My Kids
My girlfriend just told me to tell you that you should be compensated for this as how are you going to replace those precious years you lost without your children.
I loved my children even when a DNA test told me they weren't mine.

+1 for me
She should be compensated and so should anyone found not guilty of child abuse via the courts.
This way the cops will be a little more careful before charging someone on a false allegation.

Stick it to them Loving My kids.

Now I remember who you are as the above seems to ring a bell. I remember seeing you dress in a suit many years ago walking out of .... Head office here in Melbourne. Now how did you get access to their Building? I bet you got invited their.
That's right I remember in this case its not what you know its who you know.

Please ew_289 lets keep on topic, the topic is those scumbags that lie from the Department of Child Safety, those Child stealers that get away with stealing children. Who cares who I am or who's door I walked out from.

Edited by I hate Gov Dept
Again who I talk to is my business.

Want a laugh!
I go to Google and do a random check this time and I type in LIARS and guess who comes up the top of the list?
Also check the ones below (if you can see them) you will see I HATE GOV DEPT in there

Thankyou Google's it shows you that even the word Liars attaches itself to the Department Of Child Safety.

If this file could be hosted elsewhere other than aus-city I would as its not clear enough to enjoy.

We were all laughing our head off today at work, we tried it a few times and it didn't come up but eventually it did.

Done a crop job for you as yours was hard to see

If you look at the six links above, the six are stories against the Department of Child safety.
This has me stumped how they get away with it,this is all you hear Lie, Lies Liars, distorter's of the truth, fabricators, forgers, gangsters.
Is there any names for them that I have missed?.

Cathy I bet there is a lot of words that you have missed but are they palatable to put on a public forum?.
This is something I didn't know. Do you know that the average school in Queensland gets a notification and a visit from child safety officers about two to three time a week.
My sister is in the P&C at a high school near Buderim. she said when they arrive everyone scatters.

Thanks for the crop cathy, you can read it now.

I actually visited the altnews site today and read some of those stories about what some have experienced with the department of child safety and its frightening.
With any public forum today you will always get a few idiots but most of the stories written their are genuinely frightening as I said to the wife last night its just as well our kids are all over the age of 18 as I would not know how to handle myself if docs ever knocked on my door.
Some of you know that my country of origin was S Africa and I don't have to tell you what happens when you get a knock on the door and forced entry from an unwelcome visitor.
DOCS in South Africa would not last long, Far too many AK 47's still around.

Cathy,

This will be one of our subjects tomorrow. What happens when a Government gives one of its Departments excessive powers and they become a law of their own?

Its been a while since I last came to these forums for other reasons and now since I am Divorced from my husband I decided to move interstate with my Children and live with my long time friend that happens to work for Queensland Child Safety.

I will get to the point I am horrified in the way this forum has been run with a vendetta against a Government agency that does no wrong. How can you say that Child safety are nothing but a bunch of liars and bullies as that itself is nothing but a big lie as I cannot see these hard working women doing their difficult jobs and lying as this is impossible and unthinkable.

It is good to see that Australia is slowly changing, we have more women in power than ever before, we have a new Governor General Quentin Bryce, Our Premier is a fantastic leader and so is the Police Minister and the Child Safety Minister and they just happen to all be women.

Its simple. What I am trying to say is we need more women in power today to right the wicked ways than men have run riot for years and mostly we need new blood by having people like Hetty Johnson from Bravehearts to enter the Political arena and become a minister and an ideal position for her would be Child Safety as she would definitely sort out a few problems that the Department is still plagued with today.

What is most important today, people Like Hetty Johnson are Honest, unbiased, hard working and would never dream of lying and so are all the women that bring charges against men in Child Abuse cases.

I would love to work for Child Safety, and become a good team player and dedicate my life in doing the right thing in removing from home all suspected Child Abusing men.

Its time for a change, we need more women in power today as most men today are all the same.

Julie, Julie, Julie, Have I got your name right or is that a pseudonym? Ooooh watch out, A CHILD ABUSER can spell, that means she had an education and excelled but I'm still considered a child abuser...but only in the Department of Child safety's eyes! Not in the police, not in the reunification officer's, not in my neighbours, not in the counselors, and not in my community, not even with the Magistrate, just with the Department of Child Safety.

Your right, they are hard working women doing a hard job when they are pursuing child abusers, but what about parents who are maybe just struggling, need help/intervention when asking for it but instead get a boot from 'women with power' who only see a case to be won, pick up any little dirty laundry and filthy it more by misconstruing innocent facts and then cause havoc in families by separating children from each other b/c they're too many for one foster family too handle and also cut contact with all other family members to make the kids pliable for their case?

There is a vast difference to parents and child abusers and maybe that should be ascertained before names are getting thrown around. In my case, Julie, I have had to put up with lies from workers who are initially inexperienced, just out of uni, getting conned into the $10,000 bonus every 6 months for a worthy cause, or so they thought until the team leader and manager wants to start pulling their weight around with these poor front line workers getting them to lie, falsify documents and scheme against parents when contact is appropriate to make it look it wasn't because the parent is showing up the dept.

There are unfortunately many cases out there that are going through this ordeal EVERY DAY with these kids suffering worse in care than when they were at home. There's nothing really wrong with the practice manual or the CPA99, it's the workers, management, ministerial, you name it, who don't want to go by the law to do their job, throwing their weight around and thinking they have the power, they don't when it comes to shoving the law where it fits in court and that's something they forget and plus a higher power.

Please invite your friend to read what I've written here and if she thinks she maybe heading this way in her job, she can be different and make a difference in kids lives when there is no abuse happening.

LovingMyKids its not Julie,Julie,Julie, its DYKE,DYKE,DYKE.
What a pitiful person you are you remind me of one of the bitches that works for the CSA telling me someone has to pay for your child even if the child you think is yours is not yours. {DNA test told the truth}. FUCK OFF and crawl back from where you come from because you can see from what you have written here you are nothing but a men hating bitch.

Hey Crow, my daughter just said, Nice brother nice! You nailed it with the Dyke comment, I didn't realise she was so loving to the women until I re-read it today! Julie (Dyke, whichever name you prefer), I'm a woman, power hungry now that I've won another case against the dept, to make sure my kids have their say and get justice and dignity given back to them!

I'm real sorry Crow, about your situation, that's very sad and pathetic but typical of power abusing women (there's a difference between power hungry and power abusing...)I bet you don't even get to have a relationship with the kid your supporting?! My condolences to you and the child! Very sad.

Julie

You sound a bit like Cathy back in the early days except she liked men and possibly girls too but as she explained to me she had a guy give her a hard time that gave her an impression that all men were the same.
But for you Julie I could just imagine what would happen if people like you ever got into power or a position of power as heaven help us men.
Julie don't you read the papers? Don't you read the internet? I was blind to all these accusations against these Child Government Departments Australia wide until I was directed to the internet to do my own researching and it wasn't until I spoke to my Lawyer not long ago fighting a speeding ticket and I asked him is it true about these Child Related Government Departments in Australia behaving this way and he replied unfortunately yes.

Julie you need to lighten up, maybe you need to find another guy and he alone will be able to remove your frustrations but whatever you do please never apply for a position related to the above

Where is I Hate Gov Department when you need him? He will flip his lid when he reads what this bitch said. Holy Mother of Mary's my wife is still shaking her head, she wants to join the forum just to tell her off.

Some of you guys out there think I might like a bit of girl? well I have news for you your never going to find that one out guys but please don't tell me that I don't like guys because that one pisses me off.
As for mouth almighty DOCS lover above its types like you that keeps my brother buddies in business as I have said before DOCS keeps lining the pockets of Lawyers that have to save families from there crap and you want to join them.
Julie I have a friend up here in Brisbane that was ravished by Child Safety Qld and she would like to meet you with her strap on, if you want to meet her just give us a holler.

A man is away for a day or too sick in bed only to turn the computer on this afternoon to see this plastered on a Public forum.
I for one cannot believe what this Julie has written. You know I had to read it 10 time with my flu ridden body because all I could read was WOMEN,WOMEN, WOMEN Are you so bitter Julie?
Could you imagine Julie and others like her that get called up for jury duties and have the unpleasant duties of sitting for a sex trial?. Could you see her being impartial? I bet not, GUILTY! she would say even before the charges are even laid out.
There are more and more people like her today but sorry to say most are women, very bitter, very angry, and with a vengeance against men.
Tell me did your husband ever bash you to make you this way of being so anti Male? There is no doubt about this that you are bordering on the edge of being a ZEALOT.
Now you talk about Hetty Johnson and how you would like to see her in the Political arena, God help us men if that ever happens as if I remember correctly one of Brisbane's prominent Lawyers said on tv that she is brinking on the edge of Zealotry and trust me so are others that work for the Department of Child Safety.
Could you imagine having 12 Jurors like you and others similar to you in a court of law being empaneled in a sex case? The same goes for all the other ZEALOTS we have in QLD Could you imagine these one eyed monsters being picked as jurors and trying to be inpartial during a sex trial? Now that would be mission impossible and don't let anyone tell you differently.

I'm going back to my flu, See you later for more pickings whatever your sexual orientation is Julie if that's your real name..
Please give me an aspirin

Hope you are better soon I hate Gov Dept's! It's horrible having the flu and gee I thought you were quite easy on her I must say!

I noticed she hasn't returned let alone with her friend, but they may have read! Too scared to reply but.

Well I should have expected replies like this. But this won't change my way of thinking that I have now decided that I will be applying for a position with the Department of Child Safety, knowing that I can bring positive outcomes for all investigations regarding child abuse.

I spoke about this with my friend last night and she has told me she might join this forum and have her say but on the good side she has told me that now the department has an abundance of new foster carers, so that means that children will be able to be removed easier from parents when an allegation goes in, put into foster care immediately whilst before the department had nowhere to put them, possibly no relations to position them there, so they had no choice but to return the children back to their abusive parents or guardians. The way the department will be operating now, once a notification has been put in, children will be immediately removed and put into foster care until investigation and I 100% agree with this philosophy and if this unfortunately removes innocent children from their innocent parents, so be it, its the price we pay today. I can't wait to join them as I will definitely bring good to the department.

We can't have dogs like you working in a place where you can be responsible in ruining a families life.
The trouble is bitches like you and others that have the same attitude would lob up to someone house and just because the Father or Mother stands up to you and others like you which most loving parents would do you would dig your heals (leather ones at that)in, remove their Children with your JAB buddies and unleash hell for them.

A scenario:
So what we have today is an average family that is fighting with someone say a neighbour and this neighbour is sick of ringing Centrelink, the Taxation Dept, Local Council or the Police to stir some trouble up but this time lets try something different so he or she this time rings up the Dept of Child Safety and put an abuse complaint in.
So now you have like you said above in your post, you have a Notification so you grab your goon buddies JAB and arrive at the door of the house where the complaint was put in, the fuckwit fills your head with rubbish and you leave there and arrive at the house where the alleged abuse is, remember all this was started by a fuckwit trying to get revenge.
Now a man answers the door, Julie says to her butch self Geeeeeee he resembles my old husband he must be a child abuser, he makes the mistake of letting you and the other goon into the house because in real life without a court order you cannot enter the house unless invited in which you do because most don't understand or know the law(See all,,,,, when DOCS and JAB come to the door they're very, very polite as this is the ploy they use to gain access, but it all changes once in the house)Then they give you the bad news that you or your wife has been accused of abuse. The next thing they want to ask the kids questions in private and while they do this they love asking leading question even to a 5 year old with a brick size tape recorder jammed into their little faces and before you know it you are asking either the father or Mother to pack their bags with NO FUCKING EVIDENCE AND REMOVING THEM FROM THEIR HOUSE.
And of course they want you to resist them so that GOON cop with you can arrest you on a collection of charges and you Julie would experience your first orgasm during work watching a man being carted out by a toothless scumbag wearing jeans with a badge.
So in simple what we have here is a false allegation put in by a fuckwit for whatever reason. A cop with an ego problem, a child safety Zealot Called Julie, and before you know it the father and mother do what comes best to protect their family, a scuffle happens, you get excitedohhhhh the cops like this word, the father gets arrested, you remove the children and send them to Dole Bludging that cant find work or don't want to find work Foster Carers. You have destroyed the family, you ring up the fathers employer like you're good at because these fucking moles know this causes maximum damage, he gets the sack, the family can't pay the mortgage, the house gets repossessed, and you greatfully go home after a good days work and sleep well and remember this, you have a hide to call this substantiated but you have no evidence.
All I want to say more is curse you and your kind and I hope all trollops like you rot in hell you low life.

For all to know that this Apprentice dog forgot to mention to you that when your children are removed from your home the Department of Child Safety deliberately stalls, delays, fuck you around, you fucking name it. FUCK your child will be 18 by the time it comes to have your day in court and just remember these moles and very few pricks that work there (Most of the guys have left) are protected by the act, IN OTHER WORDS ITS JUST ABOUT IMPOSSIBLE TO SUE THEM!.

On another note do you know most DOCS offices are protected like Fort Knocks? You need to enter one to see for yourself, it reminds me of the way old banks were set up, 12mm glass (who knows it might even be bullet proof too) And don't forget NEVER enter one by yourself. Read what I said earlier about entering a DOCS office without a witness with you.

I cannot wait until I have the poll, naming and shaming the most hated Government office and wait till you see the .?????????????? Not saying yet..

Don't worry I hate Gov Dept - Julie has now given assurance to your user name, Julie may also one day be bitten by her own poison b/c if that's the law, you name it someone from another town may notify her against her kids in support of divorced husband in good ol' NSW. And with what she wrote I'm printing and taking as evidence that their whole handling of cases is to get back at parents regardless of proving allegations of abuse and not at all thinking of the children. It's the Childrens best interest every legal personnel have to think about, and with that argument in court, Dept can try and delay, with parents immediately responding with submitted affidavit's and claiming scandalous and oppressive material against the dept with this proven by a submitte affidavit, it may only be adjourned the once if at all!

That's where parents either know how to respond as skillfully but still honestly to the dept's false claims as quickly as they can with evidence so that then the burden of proof lies with the dept to actually prove with solid evidence their own claims. So PARENTS, KEEP ALL MEDICAL FILES, FOR YOUR CHILD, HAVE THE DOCTOR WRITE OUT HIS DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT AFTER CONSULTATION WITH COPIES OF BLOOD TESTS ETC b/c you cannot access your children's files legally and when the dept subpeona's them, it's all held at the court house, no one including the dept are allowed to take copies, it's only for perusal.

Don't worry Julie, I'll help what parents I can that I know are not abusers and I do hope to meet you in the corridors of a court house helping out a parent regain custody of their children back so that we can use that affidavit material you typed up for the sewer.

Sorry I've learnt my lesson swearing at Dchs' workers. It actually feels better talking nicely to them with the TRUTH of a matter, it's like the word TRUTH is a deadly disease to Dchs - oh that's b/c it is, none of the Dchs workers know what the word TRUTH is let alone what it means that's why it is so easy to respond to their crap claims!

Julie

I have had another twelve hours of rest and been thinking about you (YAK). Why don't you piss off
and crawl back to where you come from as your type are not need here.
Another note,not unless DOCS are desperate or you can bung a good act during your interview if you get one which is possible we hope that you will never be accepted working for this Department of Child Safety.

LovingMyKids

Who knows this so called Julie might have applied for a position with Child Safety a position of cleaning the toilets out because this is only what "IT" should be allowed to apply for.
This is a fact that young children when playing games with other kids you will always find one that wants to dominate the others. The same child will grow up and possibly seek a position in the Police service and if they cannot get a position in the Police service after they have failed more than once they lower themselves to other employment that has authority over others.

I have been told this via a chat room conversation that a high amount of Child Safety workers/social workers firstly applied for a position in the Police Service but failed so the next lower lever of authority they can apply for to show their dominance is the Department of Child safety.
See in simple it in their genes, they cant help it that they want to dominate others starting from early childhood to the day they die.

This Julie is only a want to be so in other words a useless mouth that hopes one day to work for DoChs and I wouldn't take any notice what she says.

Hi long time reader, first time poster.

I'm a firm believer in freedom of speech. I'm also a firm believer in people having their own opinions on certain subjects. However, I'm really concerned about what Julie has had to say.

For a person who knows the Department of Child Safety and exactly how it works, I'm deeply horrified to think that there are people out there who actually think that the point of foster carers is just a means to allow the Department to remove children before an investigation is conducted!

Julie, your post goes to show that you have no idea how the Department works. The Department WILL NOT be operating in this way. Not only is it unethical but it's also ILLEGAL! THe Departmet has no right to remove children just because a notification has come in on a family. As it has been said before in this forum, if the parents have abused their children then yes, remove the children for their safety. But there are instances where the notifications recieved are fales, malicious, made up crap!

You would not be bringing good to the department and I'm deeply concerned that any office would hire you. It's people like you that are the reason that there are problems in the Department.