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I'm curious about why light is a big issue whenever time-travel is discussed. It's thought, if you can travel faster than the speed of light then perhaps you could go back in time.
I understand the speed part, but what does light have to do with it.
The particles that scientists are speculating on that may change Einsteins theories, are thought they might have perhaps traveled through different dimensions to be faster than light... but there again they say Traveling faster than"Light". Traveling faster means you're quicker and and arrive in a shorter length of time. So if the speed of light is the measure of time then is light itself 'time illuminated'.
I considered once some years ago, that perhaps light may be one of the few elementals that we have some control over, but now I think maybe that perhaps light is "time illuminated" otherwise why would we have to outrun it to be able to time-travel. kidding
I'm just thinking out loud here and having some fun along the way. I really haven't any idea where to go with these thoughts.
So, I welcome your thoughts on the time-travel and what light itself may represent. Is it only a speed marker or something else?
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Well light is a photon (particle) which has a certain mass, and mass is an element in determining speed. And speed of light and travel are connected because it is generally believed that you'd have to consider the fastest moving "thing" or particle to determine limitations for travel speed of all else. It's all about the law of relativity. overhead

To me, this is an archaic way of looking at things - trying to determine boundaries by what is seen and understood. But science has operated this way and many things have been learned and created based on these visible, conjectured, formulated boundaries.

If possibilities are endless, then all things are possible. Having a step-by-step way to understand and explore possibilities is helped by setting up boundaries. Though I think an important part of this is being able to let go of boundaries when they've served their purpose and when a new way of seeing starts to surface.

I'm not into physics myself, but I understand the basics of them and I'm married to someone who lives with physics as their second-nature way of viewing the world, so I get lots of exposure to physics. But personally, I see things from a perspective of surreality and dreams (spirit) more so than physics. I believe that physical is merely a manifestation of spirit (hence the important thing is spirit). But for sure I navigate my life through a mixture of both spirit and science. Otherwise, I'd be unable to fit-in and function within society. I like to walk as close as possible to that boundary of "insanity" though. crazy2

I think that time travel occurs. I think that like the multilayer chess board analogy, we sometimes step into other "times" and I also think that future selves step into my life now, if not physically then mentally/spiritually, to adjust things and mentor me.

Because I don't look at time travel so linearly and physically (as if I'm hopping into a time machine and setting a course for a certain date), then I just accept it as something that does occur naturally, often. I thus cannot explain how or why, but I find my life to be so much nicer when I don't have to explain it, but just experience it and believe in it. Generally the understanding of why comes later anyway, after I accept it as true. That's me tho, and my 2 cents. twocents

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bouncy Thanks for all the many different ways to speculate on the light-time travel connections. thinking

I wonder, do you think it's possible to go back or go forward in time and change things or just observe them?

There's been several occasions where people report there's been time-shifts and they saw either the past or the future. But off hand I can't recite a specific case.
Except for a person I met on a forum many years ago who used to speak of time-shifts he'd been in. As best as I can recall, He said during one, he was observing a home place like setting from maybe the early 1800's. He tried to take photos but he couldn't get his camera to work.
I thought it was interesting and made sense that the camera didn't work, because perhaps you can't use a device if it wasn't invented at that time of the century and region you're in.

Thanks for your feedback. I enjoy it greatly. Your chessboard theory is much like the bubble theory of poli-verses that I like so well.
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I think that outside of time (time, which is a construct that I have seen in my visions as a torus/donut) everything exists in an obvious way all at once. So says spirit to me.

I think that my past and future selves work with my present self to shape and refine our collective existence. As such, I'd say that we can change things to a degree, or rather smooth/shape things. What we will ultimately become already exists. So all that we can change IMO are the nuances along the lines that lead from what we have been to what we will be.

I once received a vision that looked like this:

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The image was imbued with information that I interpreted as our path. We travel along our path like kundalini/chi/energy along the spine. The spaces in between the vertebrae are for free will. But each vertebrae must be passed through inevitably.

It was a way to show me how we can live a predetermined existence and yet still have free will. I suppose that it can be looked at like reacting and acting however we "will"/want between each vertebrae. But inevitably, there is only the one path and from our perspective, it is ascension up the spine.

The 11:11, etc., in the symbol, I intepret as showing me that when we see these times, they are reminders or markers of the various predetermined vertebrae/portals/gateways we are between and crossing. The predetermination, pattern, and intentionality of existence. Something LIKE that. Words for explanations always further splinter the truth of understanding. But dunno

I know what you mean about the people who have time slips (amongst my favorite reads). There are also people who have claimed to travelled back and forward in time. One such story was a guy who was working under his sink and ended up meeting his future self (even took a video - see below). That is a very interesting and believable story IMO. There is also the photographs (amongst supposed many) that Billy Meier took from a Pleiadian space craft of the earth when it was populated by dinosaurs (so assumptively, the past).


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I like your vision and theory of what it shows. I've always believed we have a destination, but choose which detours to take along the way.

When I was a teen, a friend of mine had dreadful illness and the doctors told her to quit smoking. She of course did not. I asked why she didn't quit since the doctors told her that she would live longer and maybe be able to deal with the illness better. She told me, "None of us are going to die before our time." I looked at her pale face and said I didn't think of that. And then she said, "But how we do until we get to the end is mostly up to us." I then asked again then why don't you quit smoking? and she said, "I want to live and feel alive for awhile before I put these (cigarettes) down for good." I left the conversation at that. She quit smoking for good a few months later when she was hospitalized again. I lost track of her shortly thereafter. I'm happy to report that the last I heard she was still alive after all these decades and had apparently overcame her illness.

As far as individual days goes, I think of them like a ribbon of cabinets as per a wakeful-dream I had one time years ago during a severe migraine.
The cabinets of the past were lower as if shoved in place just beside the future days cabinets. The ribbon was endless to my eyes either way, past or future, and it was 4 or 5 cabinets high.
I tried with all my might to shove that day's cabinet back in the ribbon thinking my headache would be gone if I could just get the day over with quicker. I couldn't get it to budge, but a cross blazoned on the door and I recall something spoken to me, but I can't at this moment remember what it was. Anyway, I fell asleep. My headache didn't go away though until the next day or so. I think of that dream or vision often. It was such a strange and curious thing. Also during that same year, I had another wakeful dream of years being a flowing ribbon almost like a measuring tape. Weird Huh? eyebrow

I really liked that guy's video. His story is believable. I think it's not all that far fetched. I wish he'd of told how he got back to our time though. I wonder if his future self gave him a heads-up on stumbling blocks he may encounter through the years.

Thanks for the fascinating and informative thoughts on time. You have a wonderful way of looking at everything.

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I enjoyed your examples and explanations. I feel the same as your friend and her outlook. It adds to my bouquet yet another personal example and view of choices and predetermined outcome.

The ribbon of cabinets is also a fascinating vision. It reminds me of a horizontal version of the vertebrae of my vision. The measuring tape is also another view that makes sense to me.

As for the cross on the door, it is interesting because at this moment it is tying in with the things on my mind. Not only the whole Jesus-butterfly-metamorphosis, but the cross or "X" I usually see when I think of Jesus or Christ and how it begins to morph into a see-sawing motion that becomes the butterfly.

The cross/Jesus connection leads to thoughts of "the cross we bear", which leads to my dreams and readings of late that mentioned the Essenes. I know very little about the Essenes, having learned only briefly about them in my spiritual/esoteric searches, other than they abstained from seeking pleasure. But I am reading a book (free on-line) A Dweller on Two Planets. I was led to this book by a dream a few nights ago about Mount Shasta. Many synchronicities for me surround the finding of this book.

The book A Dweller on Two Planets was written by Frederick S. Oliver and completed in 1886 when he was 20 years old. It is about his personal/soul-group history in Atlantis. It's heavy to read (at least it is to me) but I was led to the book because it has some deeper versions of truth for me to assimilate at this time. Though I am only part way through it, he mentions those of the time who were like the Essenes, though I have yet to read far enough for any particulars about them.

Then last night as I dreamed, I was in pain. I felt pain in both of my shoulders. I would wake and roll over to relieve the pain in one shoulder as it would then slowly build up in the other. This went on all night. At one stage the pain in one of my shoulders was so great that even though I didn't wake up, in my dream I could feel it, tried to ignore it, but eventually the pain got to the point I had to look down at my shoulder in the dream and I saw that a bone (like my collar bone) had broken and was now poking out of my skin.

The messages I kept receiving throughout the dream and in between were to bear the pain...to not seek pleasure and to not avoid pain. This was repeated to me over and over. I woke understanding it, though the depth of understanding began to fade as usual once my morning progressed. I feel that the message is one like that of Christ, which is to bear the pain that comes, to accept. Avoiding it is to escape back into the physical. It is probably like a membrane keeping one "trapped" in physical life unless it is broken through via acceptance. To accept the pain is to escape or overcome.

In your vision when you tried to push the cabinet back to get rid of the headache, it was perhaps a chance to see that seeking to hurry up the day in an attempt to avoid the pain was not the ultimate answer.

To bear the pain/cross, is to then exit through the door (membrane) to freedom. Somehow, like perhaps labor/birth pains, we have to ease into the pain and accept it rather than fight and avoid. The outcome is a new life!

Easier said than done, of course. wink

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I also wanted to add about avoiding pain and suffering, and not seeking out pleasure, that this seems to be a concept that when in balance is very subtle. I do not think that it means that one must endure intense pain, nor that pleasure should not be enjoyed. But rather, to become conscious as opposed to reactionary and unconscious in avoiding pain or seeking pleasure. And to accept the minor pains and pleasures as they come.

Pain, as well as pleasure, IMO, is a red flag of sorts to draw attention to the process that is bringing it, so that looking into it, wondering about why it is being experienced, will bring about the natural unfoldment of the unconscious blocks in place that are causing it. The results are enlightenment and greater mastery.

I have sometimes taken to heart one extreme or the other, where I cut myself off from relief or pleasure and other times where I seem to be running from and trying to prevent an experience I feel will bring pain. But then I eventually remember that problems and habits are an issue of unconsciousness, a sign post to focus and pay attention to see what is really happening behind the scenes in my mind.

The point is unfoldment and flowwwww. Hills and valleys are the nature of existence. It's like a rollercoaster ride in the dark where you know inclines as well as thrilling drops are ahead, but just holding on, relaxing, and accepting makes the ride easier, more interesting, more fun.

Life is definitely not about perfection. And doesn't have to be about suffering. IMO it is about experience. As my higherself said to me the other night, "she" came here to experience emotions and heterosexuality (duality). And as her vehicle/crucible, I want to accommodate and enjoy the ride because I have felt what it is like to be her and without emotion, and whilst it is peaceful, emotion has its appeal and necessity, too.

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I agree, we all have our crosses to bear. Migraines are truly one of mine.
I don't think my migraines are about learning to accept pain since they're hereditary in my family: parents & my sister. My son started having migraines when he was about 8 years old.
For me personally, if there is a lesson in them at all it's 'Patience'.
Thankfully, Now that middle-age has hit, I still have headaches, but my headaches aren't as severe. Although on occasion, I still get a severe one.

I understand what your saying. Thank you for sharing more ideas for me to speculate on.
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