Hmmmm .... one thing at the time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />My info is (correct me if I'm wrong) that Licence for Irdeto2 is about $20.000/year plus $4 for each card once off. Figures taken from New Skies rep. and they are for the systems of 3-5000 subscribers.<br />What's your exact number? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/default/cool.gif" /> <br /><br />In regards to the boxes .... as far as I know, UBI declared themselves only as CONTENT PROVIDER, means they have NOTHING to do with customers hardware. Correct?<br />On top of that it will be up to the customer either to organize hardware themselves or to ask UBI to call outsourced company to do so.<br /><br />BTW, MDS cost too, maybe TOO MUCH compared to Ir2 because you have to buy the MDS card and MDS BOX, and you can only watch their service and nothing else. And, of course, you have to buy 1000's of boxes up front from only one supplier - Mentor.<br /> Have any figures on that? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/default/cool.gif" /> <br /><br />On the other hand, as I wrote before, 1000's of Humaxes and others are already around, and the only thing those ppl need is either only card or somebody to re-align the dish and the card.<br /><br />Cheers<br /><br />scorpio<br /> <br /> <small>[ 07. December 2004, 10:46 PM: Message edited by: scorpio ]</small>