TV Plus can see if they are "genuine" ex TARBS sub when they arrive at the customers residence and see the TARBS box or TARBS paper work. There is no need for the TV Plus to take the IRD when it belongs to the customer.<br /><br />If TV Plus was doing a "genuine" swap over then fine but the way TV Plus are doing it is wrong as the customer is only "renting" the TV Plus box and no "owning" it like the TARBS box.