Yes Big time and the Biggest problem is its there own brothers in Melbourne that will be doing it.<br />Well not brothers in Blood anyhow that will be doing it.<br />Mind you everyone knows about the Massive Card sharing servers that the "MOD SHOP" In WA had until the federal Police raided them, these dickheads advertised it in the local rag. Now this Mob in Melbourne are a lot smarter than that. they only do Family groups and each group supplies one gen Irdeto2 card yes pay for one but share the rest. The sky is the limit depending how big the family is.<br />This effects all Irdeto 2 today.