Hey my Peeps,

Before writing this, let me first put out a disclaimer of sorts to say that in no way do I mean to offend,hurt, or disrespect anyone or their beliefs. My intention is just to get people's thoughts on this subject. In expressing my thoughts or beliefs below, I may forget to preclude a sentence w/ "my view is...", or "for me...", or " I believe...". In this instance please understand that the absence of those words does not mean in any way that I think my beliefs rule, I just simply forgot to include the words. As an overall tone to this reply, please keep in mind that these are just my beliefs, & I in no way mean to insinuate that they are the "RIGHT" beliefs, or the "ONLY" beliefs one should have.

Now get a snack & a cold pop, cause you're in for the long haul as I have plenty to say on this....

Everyone is right! Whatever you believe about Jesus is right. I myself have struggled w/this subject my WHOLE life. I think it may be one of my life's themes.

I started out a Catholic schoolgirl, who stood strong in my faith...until I didn't! I had spent all of my adolescent life arguing w/myself about the things in the Bible & Jesus that didn't make sense to me, & the things about religion in general that didn't make sense. I remember getting sent to the principals office(head nun) at my private school, because I questioned this aspect of the Bible, my question was during religion class and was this...."If Cane & Able were brothers, the direct descendants and children of Adam & Eve, then WHERE did the 'woman' that they fought over come from? In the Bible it says that Adam & Eve were the first two human beings placed on earth, and when they procreated, they produced two sons, Cane & Abel. So where did this elusive woman that caused one brother to kill another, come from?" That question got me suspended for 3 days.

Then I again during religion class, asked this..."If we don't commit some of these sins in the 10 commandments, then how will we learn? How will we learn the lessons we are here to learn, if never given the chance to experience the consequences & lessons that come w/the sinner aspect of humanity?"For that one, I was given 1 day suspension, & had to write "I will not question God or the Bible" 500 times!

The last straw, was when again during religion class, we were getting ready to go across the street for Mass. It was confession day at church, & as usual everyone was expected to confess in private to a priest. I sat in my pew as one child after the other came out of the confessional with their penance. When it was my turn to go, & I didn't get up, my priest came & prompted me to hurry along into the booth to make my confessions. I replied w/this, "It's OK if I miss it, God doesn't NEED me to confess my sins out loud to a priest." My priest was stunned & literally took a step back from me, as if my blasphemy was contagious! Later in the head nun's office(AGAIN), I was asked to elaborate on what I had said earlier at confession. And so I did. I think the part they mostly had a problem w/was this... "My God doesn't judge me the way your God does, & it doesn't matter to him WHO I confess my sins to, as long as I take responsibility for my own actions, learn from them, and right my wrongs through self forgiveness, and asking for the forgiveness of the ones I've hurt...if you believe SINS even exist."

That one nearly got me expelled, & they actually refused to let me accept holy communion (being able to go to the alter to accept the body & blood of Christ[wine & waffer]), as the rest of my class did. This was actually alright by me,as the whole communion ritual seemed redundant to me anyway.Then evidently THAT wasn't enough punishment in their eyes, so they further forbade me to make my confirmation( a ritual that in essence, is me making the conscious admittance of no longer being a child & confirming that I was now solely responsible for my actions & sins as an adult).A right of passage for a catholic adolescent in 7th grade. This again seemed redundant to me anyway, so I was bothered by being banned from it, not in the least.

The whole concept of constantly begging for God's forgiveness, being baptized so he'll accept me in the first place, accepting the body & blood of a man they say died for sins I haven't committed yet, confirmation that I am responsible for me, confession that I am a guilty human or a sinner, sins in general, guilt for who I am & what 'wrong act' got me here, fear that if I sway from the ten RULES that I would burn in hell, and finally that God is really nothing but EGO,..."love me & only me,or burn in hell as I am a jealous God." NONE of that worked for me. It was totally off base of my perception of a loving, forgiving(w/out having to be asked) God, A God who doesn't judge me for the mistakes I make, for they are my learning tools, A God that says "I don't care what you believe ,as long as you know & remember WHAT & WHERE you came from, and that I am ALWAYS w/you because I am you, and you - me, as we are 'one' together. A god that encourages me to sin & to be sinned against, because otherwise I won't get the lesson of duality, & what pos/neg does to a soul if not perfectly BALANCED. A God that says "there is nothing that you will EVER do to make me not love you, You chose to come here to earth, to enlighten your mind & start your soul's evolution, and as such you have CHOSEN to learn every aspect of being human - even the bad aspects of humanity, so how could I berate, belittle, judge, & punish you, for something WE BOTH agreed to let you experience & learn from?"

Now let me make some things clear, I have always known that God is real(except when atheist for 2 yrs in my confusion), But the Jesus thing has always confused me. I won't go into all of the inconsistencies on Jesus, because I understand that some people still hold the "Son of God" depiction very close to their hearts,& I would never want to be seen as a naysayer, trying to create conflict. What I will say, is that there is much that doesn't make sense to ME where the Christian Jesus is concerned. And from this confusion I was actually Atheist for about two years. Hey, not knowing what to believe left me in a space of default ya know? To me, the inconsistencies w/Jesus & the Bible, just made the inconsistencies on God more obvious...so I started to doubt God too.

After two years of soul searching, I realized that I was no more comfortable believing in "no God" as I was believing in a Christian God. And so my journey began to find God, the truth about Christ, & why I couldn't accept this God. My conclusion was that the Bible & the Jesus thing was the reason I was having such a hard time accepting God. I knew in my heart that we live more than just one life, an idea that Christianity doesn't support. I also knew that man wrote the bible, & upon many thousands of years it has been interpreted, misinterpreted, revised, passed down, reinterpreted and passed down again as the end all truth. I wouldn't have a problem w/it if it had a disclaimer on the first page stating..." These are the writings of man, they are merely the interpretations of the way some believe things unfolded. However Christianity doesn't claim to be the foremost authority on this subject,as we are all man, just trying to find our way to the same place we all came from. Believe what you choose as long as it brings you home to source at the end. Have a great journey & keep an open mind."

To me that would make it easier to find your own path, but that isn't the way it is presented. You either have to accept this as the only truth or on judgment day you will be left behind. I'm sorry, but I can't swallow that. To me it's like giving a group of people a destination to meet up at, with many routes to take, but only being ALLOWED to take the 'marked' route. And if you move off course, then you'll never find your way. I don't understand that.

So I began to strip away the guilt, the fear,the Bible & it's rules, Christianity,religion, the priests, the confessionals, the begging, the church, the sinning, original sin, right, wrong, the punishments, the judging...all of it! Until there was nothing left but ME & God! MY relationship with God. Bare,stripped, & naked of anything that prohibits my direct link to God/self/universe. Once I removed all of the human fear based ideas of God, I better understood WHO I really am. And what my purpose here is.And why it was so hard for all those years for me to find my spiritual nitch. Because I as an individual & as a part of source, know in my universal mind/heart/soul that I can't operate from fear. And to me Jesus represented fear. Fear that I wasn't as perfect a child as he to our father(when I actually believed that God was our 'FATHER'), fear that Jesus died for me and I might not be making his death worth his sacrifice. Fear that if I didn't do right, I would be sent to hell to burn for eternity(by the way I can't think of any OTHER father that would punish his own children in that way for even a second, let alone for Eternity!), fear that if I wasn't baptized like Jesus, I wouldn't be accepted by my own father in his kingdom(which I'm sorry but to me is like God asking for a DNA TEST before allowing me to come back home!), fear that if I questioned even one of his rules, or any of Jesus' teachings or motivations that I would be considered in God's eyes 'blasphemous"(sp?). So how did I let go of the fear? I let go of everything else but God. I let go of everything that I had been taught, & just kept the idea of my forgiving, loving, teaching, healing, comforting nonjudgmental God in my head at all times & followed where my instincts took me from there....and a trail or two of breadcrumbs, that God & I left along the way.

So in the end for me it was letting go of the guilt & fear that went along w/the Christian Bible & the Christian Jesus, so that I could better concentrate on my spiritual path, & build a stronger rapport with the God I believed in.
Now as an adult, I believe that the meaning of J C Son of God, is a representation of many things. Yes, I personally believe that J C is a physical interpretation of our astrological sun & also as Flux said above,"of us".I find it hard to conceive that out of all the planets in our solar system, all the solar systems in the galaxies, & all the galaxies in the universe, that our 'one little planet' is the only planet to have been graced with God's physical Son. Why us? Why earth? Why would the "truth" be shown here, where I also might add, we are represented as the ONLY works of God in his reflection of himself. I would have to wonder why the story of The son of God would only be told, or would have only taken place on ONE planet in such a vast universe. To me it just makes more sense to look at Jesus as a more universal figure, than a biblical figure who walked our earth as the Son of God, because the idea of JC in my opinion, IS universal.

I hope I haven't offended anyone, these are just my own personal beliefs, & I don't doubt the validity of the Christian J C, I just feel more comfortable with the astrological version of J C. I understand not everyone will feel the same on this, & that's OK with me, as we would all be quite boring if we didn't have such different views. And our minds would have no exercise, if there was just one simple answer.Our different views on this is literally what makes up the 'fabric of humanity', & I think instead of everyone trying to agree on one idea of Jesus, that our lesson is actually to more accept the many different aspects of this figure & respect the beliefs of others.Maybe the holy wars wouldn't thrive if we changed our objective as a people from "be ,think, & believe alike or else" to instead "be, think & believe what you choose,as we are all one,with many different aspects to our whole!" - I think part of our journey here is to accept & encourage different aspects of religion, spirituality, the meaning of life, God, Jesus, - if we already knew all of the answers, or just one answer to the universal question "what are we", we would be defeating the purpose that we came here for. Our path is to discover & accept, that although we all are extensions of the same 'whole or source', we are at still at the same time, individuals working our way back to being one mind...and in 'one' mind many different views exist.

For me, I've learned through life that there are stages of faith, & belief in that faith. I am at the stage where JC doesn't have to have a physical form in my mind. I make a lot of reference to thanking the universe, or affirming through the universe, or learning on a universal level about things. This is my reference to God. I believe that God whom some would call our father doesn't have a male persona, God to me is just the purest form of energy. I believe that God is made up of both female & male energy - dual energy. The same dual energy that resides in every thing from here to the stars & beyond. I see our Son of God as "our" sun of God( the sun of our existence). Without the sun of God we wouldn't exist here on earth. I pretty much concur w/everything in those video clips, It's amazing that it took me half my life to put all of those pieces together, & then one day I find that video, and it's all there all in one nice neat little packet...kind of like my own personal Bible.

My mom & I spent the last ten years of her life trying to find the true meaning of Jesus, we delved into ancient Egyptian writings, Pagan writings, astrology, Buddhism etc., & what we continuously found, was that Jesus to society is a person, & he was represented all over the world as many different names, but the same person - age after age. But in reality J C is our sun, & 'us' - the human part of God.
I do believe that Jesus actually walked the earth, but as the son of God? No, as one hell of a great prophets, & visionary. I do believe he had much to teach & did. I love & respect his love for humanity, & think he was a perfect example of "This is what we originally come from, & this is what it looks like in physical form when you live it". But I don't believe in living my life through the guilt I'm supposed to feel for his sacrifices for my sins. First I would have to believe in sin - which I do not. Then I would have to believe that instead of karma (Buddhist for " I'm rubber your glue" as I tell my children), to teach us of our mistakes & accomplishments, that It's all up to one superior being who judges than punishes to teach us. Sorry guys I just can't - everything in my being tells me this is a misconception of God.

I'm comfortable in my belief, and find it sometimes hard for others to see it from my perspective.but that's not what is important in my journey. What is important ,is for ME to see it from that perspective, as it is my OWN lesson to learn here. I respect any ones opinion on Jesus, & don't argue right from wrong, because there is no' right or wrong' feeling on the subject. Feelings aren't 'right or wrong'...they just ARE.

I hope this hasn't ticked anyone off, I only meant to put it out there kind of in conjunction to Idan's videos, as I felt it all tied in together. Let me also say that I don't judge people by their concept of God or Jesus, we are all here learning together & I find it helpful to sometimes just compare notes. My notes could be totally wrong but for me & the test I'm studying for, my notes are like my cheat sheet, keeping me at at least a 'C' average, ya know?


In closing I would like to leave you with this parting thought... Everyone knows that we have to wear a shirt in public.....but it should be up to 'us' as individuals, to pick the COLOR of the shirt, without judgment or guilt.