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Hey my Peeps,

That's me! bwave

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Before writting this, let me first put out a disclaimer of sorts

Understood. yes Ditto for me. And anyone who doesn't like an opinion expressed here or anywhere can be responsible for their own feelings and can choose to stop reading if it is too upsetting to experience a difference. tv Or turn the channel if they are watching TV! thumbup

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Now get a snack & a cold pop, cause you're in for the long haul as I have plenty to say on this....
Okay, I will! [Linked Image]

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In the Bible it says that Adam & Eve were the first two human beings placed on earth, and when they procreated, they produced two sons, Cane & Abel. So where did this elusive woman that caused one brother to kill another, come from?"


I had similar types of questions!

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"If we don't commit some of these sins in the 10 commandments, then how will we learn? How will we learn the lessons we are here to learn, if never given the chance to experience the consequences & lessons that come w/the sinner aspect of humanity?"
winner You cottoned on to this so young! clapping I always found it ironic that a church would teach about free will being God's great gift to "man", my religion (Mormon) did anyway, and yet, you were commanded not to use it. I wuz confused. dizzy

I finally reasoned, if God gives me a drive and will to live, choose and experiment and then also wants to punish me for doing so, then this is one sadistic God, or he doesn't really exist, or someone is doing some serious misinterpretations. I finally decided that if there was a God, it would be greater than me, and the best (greater) people I knew, were reasonable and compassionate people. So I reasoned that God was likely closer to that. Now, however, I understand through my own spiritual experiences, that God (mine) doesn't care what I do. It is up to me -- it's all good. I need only worry about the earthly consequences.

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My God doesn't judge me the way your God does, & it doesn't matter to him WHO I confess my sins to, as long as I take responsibility for my own actions, learn from them, and right my wrongs thruogh self forgiveness, and asking for the forgiveness of the ones I've hurt...if you believe SINS even exist."


Ooo, I'm reading each of your paragraphs and answering spontaneously...I see you gleaned a very similar answer to mine! But even better put! wink No wonder we have been brought together. At the very least we have the same God!

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The whole concept of constantly begging for God's forgineness...(this WHOLE paragraph) highfive

[Linked Image] U + Me ---> in the same choir! cheerful You're singing my song and perfectly in key!!

Atheism: I also did this for a number of years out of my confusion as well. Mine was based on my religion so effectively drumming into me that it was the only true religion, that when I could not longer see it as pure truth, I made the erroneous assumption that then nothing was true!

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I also knew that man wrote the bible, & upon many thousands of years it has been interpreted, misinterpreted, revised, passed down, reinterpreted and passed down again as the end all truth. I wouldn't have a problem w/it if it had a disclaimer on the first page stating..." These are the writtings of man, they are merely the interpretations of the way some believe things unfolded.

Hallelujah! Speak to me...yes

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To me that would make it easier to find your own path, but that isn't the way it is presented. You either have to accept this as the only truth or on judgement day you will be left behind. I'm sorry, but I can't swallow that. To me it's like giving a group of people a destination to meet up at, with many routes to take, but only being ALLOWED to take the 'marked' route. And if you move off course, then you'll never find your way. I don't understand that.

I have truly met my match in deep thinking, philosophy, interpretation and explanation. Bless, bless, bless you, Jamie! allhail I'm going to thank God right now for crossing our paths! pray

This is a long one, and a masterpiece, Jame. I am going to do this in two posts. So ending part one here. highfive