Originally Posted by Alisa

To keep you from breaking out of conformity because that is part of the conformity program - for the slaves to keep the slaves down? (I may have got this idea from what you said below...)


Well STS is directed toward the self - self gain.
In society, the world in which we live, yes the "slaves" (the term both factual and perceptive)are used to keep the slaves down so to speak. This is an advanced way in which to control. The common method of provoking another in order to gain is that of the novice STS shall we say, while an advanced STS (4th and 5th density "activation") would work through individuals to make the gain. This is necessary for the circumnavigation of free will in order to retain a state of balance yet remaining STS oriented.
But back to the real world if we are to call it that, the people demand their own enslavement. Television, Newspapers and media in general are mediums utilized in this process. Of course this challenges the belief systems of the masses, though things are changing.


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As far as enlightenment, I meant that the teachers themselves seemed the closest to enlightenment of the other people in my life at the time. At least they asked me to think and wanted me to. And at times the truly nurtured me that way and told me I was good at it, which meant so much to me.

True, I have not stopped asking. I am unable to. I would have to lose every single friend and family member and even then, I would not stop my quest for understanding. In fact, I have found it easier to have less people in my life, just key peeps.

I see.


Originally Posted by Al
The concept of work was a keystone in the question. If it is work in the common sense - ie effort in order to achieve a goal or "success", then STO do not do this to my understanding. If it is work as defined in physics for example then this is probably ok. The STO polarity is a ratio with an higher output than input.

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This is interesting and something I did not know, that STO do not put in effort toward goals.

There is still the work, the striving that an STO oriented entity may undertake. The understanding is that there is no intent to gain or expectation for reality to be "as envisioned". Openness and consideration is present, rather than the hoping, the wishful thinking of the negative polarity. This understanding is worthy of some further contemplation/consideration.

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For me, I put in effort to understand. I will put in all the effort I can. And as such, I suppose that is a goal. Otherwise, I am no longer goal oriented, nor driven by monetary gain, nor success under various definitions. So I can truly relate to the idea of no goal. In fact, an analogy I've had in mind lately is of people (as if working in a factory) sitting at a conveyor belt in which what they need to experience passes by. No need to find what is needed as divine will brings it to you through flow, and if it doesn't appear on the conveyor belt, then you don't need it.

STO.

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I'm interested in the emotional response. If you are willing to share - why do you think you felt what you felt for example?


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I am basically always willing to share! Thank you for asking. veryhappy I felt these tears well up in me because I feared that you would be an STO and hate me because I am not.


Each exists on multiple levels, though levels may be in potential only.
Even if I were STO, STO oriented do not hate; again you seem to be quite certain that you are STS.

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It must be due in part to a recent experience in which a beloved friend who I really cared about pushed me away after I shared openly my spirit experiences which she sees as dark and bad. I also had dreams that we had been sisters in a past time, and that this was a reccurence, in which she rejected me then also for my beliefs she judged to be evil.

Lessons repeat until learnt.


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It's a soft spot in me. Which I think I keep revealing over and over here in our discussion, actually. shy And which I keep experiencing over and over in an attempt (I believe) by my soul to desensitize/heal my consciousness. I need to not care and to become comfy with the concept of being alone as a human, knowing I am never alone in spirit.


No one is ever alone.


Originally Posted by Al
Also why do you think I am or might be STSor feel I might be STO? You may note that it makes no difference to me if I am perceived as STS, evil, hated or anything of the sort - not that I am saying any of this applies to you.


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I know you are human (you are, right? cylon) chuckle, but you are a very mindful (conscious) human.
Catalyst can help...
We learn where we are at.

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Though I could make this post much longer and explain, it would be irrelevant why I think what I do. I'm just basing it on my own hopes, judgements, etc., based on only a little information about you and tons of misconceptions on my part, I'm sure.

Just observe. One sees more if the bias is left behind. Consider possibilities rather than assume "can't be" or "must be".

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And as far as defining STS and STO, after reading more of Ra, I'm disappointed and remember now having read some of this in the past. Some of it resonates with me amazingly and some of it couldn't seem more wrong to me. Much of the STS stuff seems like Ra is just saying the same thing I "complained" about before - the people who say light is good and dark is bad. It just goes against everything I am and believe when they say that. It takes the wind out of my sails to continue on reading.

Well there may be some misunderstanding in there, and perhaps by many so called new-agers.
It is called the Law of One for a reason. The core message is that all is one. In truth, at the deepest level there is no separation between any one or any thing. There really is no division, the entire universe, is one consciousness.
To distort this, the programming along the lines of "We are all one, no need to worry about anything, just "love" those that hurt others, hate or kill.
This neglects essentially that within unity there is polarity. The polarity is essentially just the direction of flow of "energy". The universe is a perfect balance of the two. One little insight of the Yin and Yang symbol is that of the "eyes" in each portion - that in the dark, there is always a speck of light and in the light there is always a speck of dark. There is the potential for one polarity in the opposite polarity.
To distort this, programming which "turns off" the recognition of the fundamental concept that all is one and the polarities themselves are illusions too when understood in full. Hence the individual falls into the good guy bad guy scenario. Many whom the populous have or do view as evil view themselves as good for the work they do or have done.

Everyone is learning. With that understanding alone, one can find forgiveness.

To truly know another is to truly love them.