Originally Posted by Al
Would you really need a judge/jury? Then what - police and jails? Teaching could be ok, but if it were a case of the way in which the people must or are expected to act, are we not back to either/or indoctrination and conformity?

Do you not recall (assuming it is true for the moment) universal balance?


Well, if there is universal balance, then back to what I originally said:

Originally Posted by Alisa
Second Scenario: My utopia, where harmony exists.

Here there is no sickness because there is no imbalance. I also think that there would be no ageing and no birth.
I believe this would [be] emanation - but the return path to creator.


If there is harmony, then there are no problems. Anywhere I am discussing fixing things, I am thinking of discord/dualtiy (like at present) seeking harmony/unity. But otherwise, true, I do not want to promote ideas of police, jails and conformity as harmonious.

Originally Posted by Alisa

An analogy of how I see people responsibly coexisting is like cells in a body. Each cell has its function and its boundaries. Not enough resources starve the cell, and too many drown it. Also, one cell should not impede upon another cell. It should work within its boundaries and limitation and should expect that its boundaries are also respected.
Originally Posted by Al
...what might determine why or how an individual works or behaves in this manner...



This is why I keep coming back to belief/be/faith, because I don't think we can logically sort out all issues in a way that will bring about harmony. It can be fun to think about, but I don't really believe it can be done or needs to be done. When humans try to sort things, it never works. I feel harmony can only come from letting go of struggle and desire to control. It can only come from aligning with a higher guidance and organizer that already exists. The disharmony is in fighting it. Healthy cells merely "exist" in harmony with divine will. They don't think for themselves, but flow with the thoughts that are given to them. In the end, there is only one mind that does the organizing.

So in the end, in line with my original statements about ascension, I don't think we need to do anything aside from letting go of the need to control everything, and letting things "be". It would be highly uncomfortable at first because we have been (through the illusion of individuality and duality) led to believe we are separate and need to organize things, and that there isn't something there making everything right. As we overcome this illusion, we are ascending. There aren't any particulars IMO that need to be done other than to let go of fear and the need to control.