I'm sure I've seen this info before on the forum but just can't find it right now. Can we use any receiver that supports Irdeto for TV Plus?

The dreambox works the best you don't even need a card!! and the new model has HDTV even that won't fix TV plus's problem.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jaremt:<br /><strong> The dreambox works the best you don't even need a card!! and the new model has HDTV even that won't fix TV plus's problem. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">HDTV for terrestrial signals?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by jaremt:<br /><strong> The dreambox works the best you don't even need a card!! and the new model has HDTV even that won't fix TV plus's problem. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Funny aren't you.<br />I'm not sure which new model Dreambox is Bringing but it will have a HDTV for local terrestrial signals <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

The Dreambox is too expensive and it doesn't fit into my long term plans, so any cheap box with Irdeto 2 slot will do as long as it's accepted by the TV Plus, right?

This forum isn't particularly helpful when it comes to non-UBI questions. Answers usually revolve around the Dreambox as if it's the perfect answer to all non-UBI providers. I'm sure UBI would like to see TV Plus and all the others (including Foxtel) out of business due to the piracy but that's just a dream.<br /><br />The biggest threat to all is not the piracy, it's the Internet. The music industry has already felt it, the next are TV and Hollywood. As for the satellite TV, well they can only survive in the rural and isolated areas (read Austar), the rest are doomed.<br /><br />In the mean time I suggest we close this forum as it obviously doesn't serve its intended purpose.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> The Dreambox is too expensive and it doesn't fit into my long term plans, so any cheap box cant hafle themwith Irdeto 2 slot will do as long as it's accepted by the TV Plus, right? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You pay for what you get, that simple I will say it again the dreambox is the best ever, its just a case that 96% cant handle them.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> This forum isn't particularly helpful when it comes to non-UBI questions. Answers usually revolve around the Dreambox as if it's the perfect answer to all non-UBI providers. I'm sure UBI would like to see TV Plus and all the others (including Foxtel) out of business due to the piracy but that's just a dream.<br /><br />The biggest threat to all is not the piracy, it's the Internet. The music industry has already felt it, the next are TV and Hollywood. As for the satellite TV, well they can only survive in the rural and isolated areas (read Austar), the rest are doomed.<br /><br />In the mean time I suggest we close this forum as it obviously doesn't serve its intended purpose. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Why in the hell do you want to buy a rubbish box that yo will throw away at a later date when you can buy the best for a few hundred more, Mine it set up for all satellites and I'm typing to you now with it. You ask for a box and I only buy the best what wrong with that.

If you subscribe to tv plus there card works perfect in the Dreambox and it give you other options for all the other Free to air Satellites. mind you I have bought one second hand fo $400.

If I understand you right, Phil, you dont need to buy additional Irdeto CAM for Dreambox. Does it meens it has embedded Irdeto? <br />What about Dreambox picture quality? I've got real problems with my Technosat 7000 (from Horizon). I have quite bad pixalization (not sure if it is right term: picture is breaking to small squares on fast movement). It happens only on channels with good PQ (RTR, CH1 and RTVI), which brought directly from Europe. No problems with shity ones like NTV America and RTVI+ (not channels - their PQ, they are converted from NTSC).<br />It seems, box has not enough processing power to process rich picture, or is it still problems with translation?<br />Actually, I am looking for box with Irdeto, PVR and ideally with Terrestrial TV. But it's look like you can not have all this in one box at the moment?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Nick:<br /><strong> This forum isn't particularly helpful when it comes to non-UBI questions. Answers usually revolve around the Dreambox as if it's the perfect answer to all non-UBI providers. I'm sure UBI would like to see TV Plus and all the others (including Foxtel) out of business due to the piracy but that's just a dream.<br /><br />The biggest threat to all is not the piracy, it's the Internet. The music industry has already felt it, the next are TV and Hollywood. As for the satellite TV, well they can only survive in the rural and isolated areas (read Austar), the rest are doomed.<br /><br />In the mean time I suggest we close this forum as it obviously doesn't serve its intended purpose. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You got me confused now??. This forum is called " OTHER PAY TV SERVICES" not just TVPLUS so just because you can't decide which box to buy you want this fprum closed <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> My Brother just bought a used Dreambox 7000 for $420 and has his legal austar card in it he will be connecting it to his router so he can browse the net he now has a 1 gig USB stick so he will be able to download heaps of plugins and games for the kids The list is a mile long for what you can do with these marvellous boxes and by the way his Humax 5400 has been sacked for being too stupid. But if you want a cheap Irdeto 2 box any will do with software problems like some of the cheapies have and after you finish with tv plus you might as well put it in the bin. Most cheap irdeto 2 boxes will not even work on Austar and thats Irdeto 2 and if they do they drop out lock up and give you the shits.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Kostya:<br /><strong> If I understand you right, Phil, you dont need to buy additional Irdeto CAM for Dreambox. Does it meens it has embedded Irdeto? <br />What about Dreambox picture quality? I've got real problems with my Technosat 7000 (from Horizon). I have quite bad pixalization (not sure if it is right term: picture is breaking to small squares on fast movement). It happens only on channels with good PQ (RTR, CH1 and RTVI), which brought directly from Europe. No problems with shity ones like NTV America and RTVI+ (not channels - their PQ, they are converted from NTSC).<br />It seems, box has not enough processing power to process rich picture, or is it still problems with translation?<br />Actually, I am looking for box with Irdeto, PVR and ideally with Terrestrial TV. But it's look like you can not have all this in one box at the moment? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Mate pixalization most of the time is caused at there end not at the boxes end but it does happen as my brothers cheap rubbisg Irdeto 2 box use to pixalate only when hot on a hot day so in other words the box is shit.<br />The dreambox is 100% software in every area and has so much support on the net its not funny, do some reading like I have and when I can afford one I'm getting one

I'm waiting for the new dreambox to come out very soon with the terrestrial card in it and don't forget you can have up to a 300 gig hardrive in them to record whatever you please and up to 4 gig USB drive too, Now you don't have to go for the illegal stuff thats a no, no, but when my brother spotted a setup and his eyes opened super wide he could not believe what this box could do the owner flicked through all the channels like over 100 of them. All foxtels/all TV plus/all RFO and XXL via 3 dishes and diseqc on the sharing system plus he had the keyboard, over 2 gig of games and plugins weather warnings, tsunani warning you name it and it does it 14 different plugins running in it. Now could you imagine what the new twin tuner will do. Can't wait.

Nick, here is a cheap irdeto box.<br /><br /> REMOVED BY PHIL, Nobody pays my bills if someone wants this info just pm it to each other.Thanks<br /> <br /> <small>[ 13. September 2005, 06:00 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]</small>

Some of the cheap boxes suffer from lipsink problems, nothing worse then someone lips moving and the words are delayed or the other way around

I see that OZNETICS has just joined the forum.<br />May I warn you that you're not allowed to advertise on this site. No company pays our bills so we don't allow anyone to take advantage of us.<br />Admin<br />Phil

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Master V:<br /><strong> Some of the cheap boxes suffer from lipsink problems, nothing worse then someone lips moving and the words are delayed or the other way around </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes, I've got it too time from time, but not sure is it box or signal?

Its a 50/50 but because i have a few brands of boxes I can check to see who's at fault.

I notised it happens more on good quality picture channels like RTR for Horison. And also pixaliation problem. But, when it is slow movement or steady picture - it is perfect. I've never seen this PQ on this channel even in Russia. <br />I read a lot about problem with pixalisation on some terrestrial boxes. Same DVB standart - may be same problem?