I still have probs with 12525. I can easily get 12658. The LNB is exactly at the position Drath vade have mentioned. the signal quality is 36%.<br /><br />When I turn the dish about 1-2 degs to the east the box try to seek signal from transponders 12407, 12527, and 12720 ( 30000, vertical) and it says all info recieved but shows no TV channels (just ESPN, CNN,NGC,... from old Tarb channels).<br /><br />However, turning the dish 1-2 degs to west again to its original position, it quickly lock on 12658 vertical(only) and shows all globecast channels on that frequency.<br /><br />Can you think of anything I have to do?Please help if you can.