It's just a swap yeah you might own the MDS box but when you get the new Irdeto box then you own that so whats the difference?<br /><br />Is it like your goin to use the MDS box or will it just sit in the cupboard and become a antique of satellite TV like the DGT 400's when they became redundant LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />