This forum isn't particularly helpful when it comes to non-UBI questions. Answers usually revolve around the Dreambox as if it's the perfect answer to all non-UBI providers. I'm sure UBI would like to see TV Plus and all the others (including Foxtel) out of business due to the piracy but that's just a dream.<br /><br />The biggest threat to all is not the piracy, it's the Internet. The music industry has already felt it, the next are TV and Hollywood. As for the satellite TV, well they can only survive in the rural and isolated areas (read Austar), the rest are doomed.<br /><br />In the mean time I suggest we close this forum as it obviously doesn't serve its intended purpose.