I'm waiting for the new dreambox to come out very soon with the terrestrial card in it and don't forget you can have up to a 300 gig hardrive in them to record whatever you please and up to 4 gig USB drive too, Now you don't have to go for the illegal stuff thats a no, no, but when my brother spotted a setup and his eyes opened super wide he could not believe what this box could do the owner flicked through all the channels like over 100 of them. All foxtels/all TV plus/all RFO and XXL via 3 dishes and diseqc on the sharing system plus he had the keyboard, over 2 gig of games and plugins weather warnings, tsunani warning you name it and it does it 14 different plugins running in it. Now could you imagine what the new twin tuner will do. Can't wait.