Two years ago when clone cards were the go and dreamboxes were still dreaming Foxtel and Austar has a phase of shutting down more of its own subs than pirates. UBI will never stop hitting the boxes becauses sellers will be always be selling. All pay tv companies will never stop tryng to stamp out piracy but when you think they have the upper hand to stop it something else comes out on the market to counter the countermeasure. Look at the dreambox for a start softcams are coming out monthly all you have to do is look at the latest Divinci Image its enough to make Fox and Aust puke.