hi guys <br />I'm new in this forum,(phil knows me from BSOL) but you're talking about pay TV and you're talking about value,so I though i let you know about "LBF which offer 21 channel in FRench for $199 installation and $21 a month for the first 6 months after that it's $42 monthly.THose price are only if you connect this month.When I said these channel are French you can also have them in spanish english german etc..etc...<br />I've no interest in this company just though I let u know.Their web site is "lbf.com.au"<br />cheers<br />michel