Originally Posted by Al
Unless the consciousness is infinite, in which case it would have infinite knowledge/understanding.

But is all consciousness infinite?

Originally Posted by Al
They provide structure. A physical law does not mean the 'end of the road'. Often when knowledge is furthered including with technology, so called laws are often rendered incorrect or simply incomplete.

Thank you for that explanation and then for the example of measurement as an example of scientific objectivity. That is satisfying info.

Originally Posted by Al
But there is still objectivity. The ability to take the measurement would not be possible if the numbers themselves (mathematics) were not objective in themselves. So in other words the means that perform the measurement, including pattern (a mathematical form) is that which is objective. The result of the measurement, the object and the rest is all subjective.

So the only thing objective is numbers. add

Originally Posted by Al
You can let go of all those thoughts when talking with me...
Excellent. coolpeace

As for "belief is redundant", I think I know what you meant now. But on the subject of belief, you have said that you do not "believe" in things (not to be confused with faith). No fairies, etc., right?