Originally Posted by Alisa
Originally Posted by Al
There are many quite content with things at present, or more accurately they are content whilst their little world brings them sufficient satisfaction. When it does not, then there is often the demand or forcing of change to their preference - often under the guise of "better for all", yet they presume to either think for others or that others think like they do. And of course there is the facilitation of all of this which they do not recognize. So they live lies. Lies they do not see or do not want to see. They even tell themselves lies so that they do not have to see things as they are.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean, but we can move on from it if you like.

Originally Posted by Al
With that we may return to the OP. "Complicity - do you agree?".
If one considers a collective organism from the perspective of the collective, then there is no singular unit, no individual in the separate sense. So in some small part, what one does is connected to all others. In that sense, complicity to one degree or another is a given as all relations are viewed symbiotically.

Hmm, it's a tricky thing, but so interesting. I can think only of the example I gave of the aliens or of the time I had a conversation with the/a vampire in my mind whilst altered and I had said, "But you are just a part of me though, right?" And he said, "I'm a little more independent than that". Now that made me think! There is an element of complicity, in fact, now I am led to think of the times I have had to give conscious consent to entities wishing to merge with me. I understood that I had to say "yes" or invite them in whilst at a certain level of consciousness so that my consciousness could understand or agree with my complicity.

Maybe the answer is always "yes", but I needed to agree with the "yes" consciously to become stronger or learn more. Maybe it is the fighting of the inherent complicity of us all as a collective that creates distortion?

But then again (oh the paradoxes! doh) no friction will mean no growth. And that's why there is free will.

Am I going in circles here, Al? spin

Could be.
The degree of choice is a function of knowledge.
As for the vampire, perhaps consider holographic representation if you like.