To my old mate Phil the answer is a big No <br /><br />To RF-llittle, I believed we were talking about hot chips, as they were the people you were raving about not Austech I believe that they are two separate entities under the law or am I wrong.<br />Because the link that you put up had taken me to the Austech site and if I had placed a order with Austech I would be buying from Austech as they were the ones that were advertising DBs with a 3 Mth warranty which I agree is not right and may get themselves in trouble .<br />It does not matter who owns these companies they may be owned buy the one person who knows or cares because if you buy it from hot chips they give you 12Mths and you implied that hot chips gave only three mths and you are wrong PAL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br /><br />End of line