its wasent that bad of a price i got it from adigitalife in QLD www.adigitalife.com.au<br /><br />they sell them for $299 delivered to sydney talk to jason from there he will give you a fair deal?<br /><br />and there a pretty good unit for that price and its does other things as well that cant be talked about on a FTA forum <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br />sorry forgot to add that it is a Fortec Star Lifetime Ultra <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 17. July 2004, 10:01 AM: Message edited by: lazer ]</small>