ok thanks Phil<br /><br />I didt know that the MDS system was cracked first i heard bout it now but that pisses me off how they can do that to a pay tv company that brought alot of channels from around the world and they could just take advantage of this it was the only pay tv provider in Australia to bring a mix of channelS from all over the world that were not available previously BLOODY THIEVES !!!!!!!!!!! BLOODY PIRACY !!!!